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#41 hindle xiii

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 09:48 PM

11/24 named again, plus the 2/4 that switched.

Edited by hindle xiii, 05 March 2013 - 10:00 PM.

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#42 trakl

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 10:40 PM

A report by Andy Wilson on the Guardian website has Danny Brough being omitted from a longer (unreleased) 40-man squad - and with an offer to switch back to Scotland's ranks...

#43 Harrigan

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 12:38 AM

11/24 named again, plus the 2/4 that switched.


But look at the other 13 that havent been names. Mark Calderwood and Lee Smith jump off the page straight away.

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#44 OMEGA

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 12:47 AM

MY TEAM........Vs..........SMs LIKELY TEAM
1. Tomkins.......Vs..........1. Tomkins
2. Hall .............Vs..........2. Hall
3. Atkins...........Vs.........3. Reed
4. Watkins........Vs.........4. Watkins
5. Charnley.......Vs.........5. Charnley

6. Widdop.........Vs.........6. Sinfield
7. Brough..........Vs.........7. Chase

8. S Burgess.....Vs.........8. Morley
9. Roby.............Vs.........9. Roby
10. Graham.......Vs........10. Graham
11. Westwood...Vs........11. JJB
12. Ellis.............Vs........12. Ellis
13. O'Loughlin...Vs........13. Burgess

14. Burrow.........Vs........14. Burrow
15. Hock............Vs........15. Westwood
16. Hill...............Vs........16. Wilkin
17. Mossop.......Vs.........17. Hill

I know its only a guess at SMs team but I don't think it'll be far wrong
I'd fancy my team to win

#45 hindle xiii

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 07:53 AM

But look at the other 13 that havent been names. Mark Calderwood and Lee Smith jump off the page straight away.

And the returnees in the main are forwards too. Somewhat of an outside backs rejuvination, which I thought may happen at the time, I think the next big push will be on half backs.

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#46 Ant

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 08:15 AM

Sorry to jump back a bit but Danny Brought has been consistently top drawer - he has lost that moodiness that he had exhibited

To omit him and tell him to go back to Scotland is tantamount to a punch in the face. To leave off the player who is simply our best kicker and creative halfback is a coach who can't see past his pet players

#47 Dave T

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 08:47 AM

Sorry to jump back a bit but Danny Brought has been consistently top drawer - he has lost that moodiness that he had exhibited

To omit him and tell him to go back to Scotland is tantamount to a punch in the face. To leave off the player who is simply our best kicker and creative halfback is a coach who can't see past his pet players

I have to agree. Too many, even in here will judge players based on 5 years ago.

With Scotland being my 2nd team in the WC I hope he does go back to them and prove a point (even though I dont like players changing sides)

#48 Harrigan

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 12:37 PM

Lets have a look at the semi final line up from the '08 WC vs a Probable '13 line up

2008 WCSF.......Vs..........Likely '13 Team
1. Wellens....... Vs..........1. Tomkins
2. Gardner..........Vs.........2. Charnley
3. Gleeson........ .Vs.........3. Watkins
4. Senior........ Vs.........4. Reed
5. Calderwood.....Vs.........5. Hall

6. McGuire....... ..Vs.........6. Sinfield
7. Burrow.......... Vs.........7. Chase

8. Graham..... Vs.........8. Crabtree
9. Roby............. Vs.........9. Roby
10. Peacock.......Vs........10. Graham
11. Westwood... Vs........11. Westwood
12. Ellis............. Vs........12. Ellis
13. Purdham... Vs........13. Burgess

14. Pryce......... Vs........14. Burrow
15. Morley...... ...Vs.......15. Morley
16. Higham.........Vs.......16. Hill
17. Wilkin..... ..Vs........17. Hock

Personally, I think this team would beat the '08 version quite comfortably. The 3/4 line looks much more dangerous and the current 6/7 combo offers more direction than McGuire/Burrow did at the time. The bench is where we are much stronger though. I think that team can compete. It probably wont win anything, but it isn't as bad as what a lot of you are making out. Add to that the 18-23 compared to the rest of the '08 squad and it looks like we have massively improved in the "player pool"

Edited by Harrigan, 06 March 2013 - 12:40 PM.

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#49 Saint Toppy

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 12:47 PM

Ablett :lol: Jeeze England are desperate
An 18yr old on his SL debut made him look stupid last Friday, just imagine what world calss centres like Inglis & Morris will do to him. Even worse if he ends up having a yard dog like Cockayne as his winger.

#50 terrywebbisgod

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 08:22 PM

Ablett :lol: Jeeze England are desperate
An 18yr old on his SL debut made him look stupid last Friday, just imagine what world calss centres like Inglis & Morris will do to him. Even worse if he ends up having a yard dog like Cockayne as his winger.

I would imagine he'll be used in the forwards. :rolleyes:
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#51 back to the future

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 11:22 PM

Ablett, Wilkin JJb, Chase, Mcguire .

Yes them 5 would be shown the door for me
Ablett = Average Joe
Wilkin= Amazed he keeps getting selected
JJB =Maybe 3/4 years ago but not now
Chase = Headless chicken and he aint English
McGuire= Main attribute pace but now gone
I'll add that if the squad is based on current form how come Ellis who aint played a game yet gets selected and Mossop who is out injured for weeks and was way overrated in the first place are in.
Sinfield being the golden boot :rolleyes: i suppose has got to be included but internationally at SO or LF he'll be shown up,added to that wtf is Morley at he's age doing in that squad,Peacock did the decent thing by retiring(and he probably could still do a job)Morley seems to be the David Beckham of RL,does'nt know when to hang up his international boots,mind you i blame SM for picking him.

#52 The Big Gun

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 11:31 PM

I would imagine he'll be used in the forwards. :rolleyes:

The Aussie and Kiwi second rowers are no doubt shitting themselves at the prospect of facing Carl Ablett...




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