'The Parksider' timestamp='1363157429' post='2656446']
RL was an M62 sport at one time but now is played all over the country. That's a fact. Ask them in Hemel and Harringay
London is seen as important because it heads the south east player development system and not primarily because it attracts a bigger TV contract, which it may or may not do
Then I suggest you ask those form Hemel, Skolars, South London storm et al on this board whether or not they will be continuing without the Broncos. I suspect they will. One oif the big issues over the years has been the indifference shown by amateur clubs to the professional club
RL is watched all over Britain so it's watched nationally. it gets good viewing figures, people like the game.
You could say the same for American Football and several other sports.
It isn't widely played because it's too tough a sport and the vast majority of likely players are already playing union..
Rubbish it's not played in schools down here, as with the American Football example, if you want to play the game you actively have to seek a club to play it at. In the M62 zone you play at school and its a more natural progession to the amateur ranks. And as a Southerner it's distinclty patronising to claim Rugby League is tough to play. Having played in our version of Thugby
Union at my comprehensive ,I have no doubt I could have been an effective forward if I had the chance to play league and i am by no means alone.down here in that respect..
London's problems are primarily poor performance, in the past they have achieved higher table rankings and even got to Wembley.
Prior to last season the clubs lowest average attendance figures were in 1999 when we got to Wembley, It's not all about performance on the field as you should realise if you have been reading the multitude of articles on London on this forum.
London as a city has a massive draw with an unlimited appetite for sport but RL only offers the glitteratti of London 1 yearly event to get their teeth into.
Watching the Bronco's should be pitched to a different punter, not the same bunch. The corporate customer has deep pockets but a lot of choice and you can't pitch a fairly low rent RL club at these people just because there might be a lot of them.
Can you explain this paragraph to me as London does not chase corporate Tail. It chases "Working class" fans, and anay and all soccer fans. it deliberately targets the lower end of the social spectrum whith the spinoff that you now have, if comments I hear at home games are anything to go by some amongst the dwindling band of fans would probably welcome Skrewdriver
as a post match covers band.....
This of course ignores the fact that Whitton next to leafy Twickers is very working class and that famous left winger
Kevin Sinfield himself has stated Rugby League should be open to all classes. In truth the success of sports such as Rugby Union and American Football has been on the basis of being a family game that it the anti-soccer (i.e. offering a different experience). Our Chairman, the ex-Charlton Athletic director - who advertised discounted tickets for charlton fans near the end of last season - sees the club as an off season hobby for Soccer fans and as we have even read on this forum. Given the choice between a Rugby League game and a soccer game. they go to their soccer club.
Why our hapless CEO gets the blame for being "his masters voice" and implementing the views of his chairman and employer, I would put down to fans not willing to face the reality that all decisions at the club are made and signed off by our chairman. It's said he subsidises our entertainment and has done since Ian Lenargan left but that's if you call the clubs decline on and off the field as "entertainment". The fact is he has run the club down to the extent that it will leave a toxic legacy for the game in the south.
I'm glad someone has finally come out and said this, but I don't honestly believe the RFL would ever throw them out of the league unless they opted to go like Crusaders.
Whilst there is no love for the club amongst other members of Super League, You are correct in that the probable outcome will be London's demise played out in front of sub-four figure crowds in 2014 "somewhere" in East London. A demise that no doubt has the sage of Newport salivating with twitching fingers in his Sunday Times office eager to pen the obituary.
What is not mentioned in thius thread is the effect of the failure of London Broncos to become an accepted minority sport within the London area has had upon the game as a whole because we are posting about professional sport here not some amateurs. Believe me this is reflected in sponsorship and will be in the next TV Contract. Some Super League chairman (Hudgell and Lenargan) do understand the strategic importance of a well run professional club in London. However that's not what we have got and it's important to remember its not just about a winning team or "development" that contitutes a well run club.
I also think that fans like watching relegation battles too rather than meaningless second half of season games.
We are in agreement - again - the two biggest turnouts for London in terms of away support were at Crusaders in 2006 and Widnes in 2004 which was a vital relegation game where we had about 250 which is not a lot by Northern standards but is by London standards. Its also true to note that the biggest marginal increase in the average attendances over the years has actually come in relegation struggle seasons.
Unfortunately League went down the alien route of franchising which allows underperforming organisations not to be replaced by up and coming organisations as in real life but instead creates a welfare state for them allowing underperforming organisations to contuinue to be underperforming living off the benefits given to them by the game as a whole whilst contributing little towards increasing the games profile. The Broncos from 2009 onwards are a classic case of this for if P&R was still in existence would the club be in the decrepid state it is in now, as action would have to have been taken one way or the other.
You and I agree on this but good luck in getting certain other people to acknowledge Franchisings failure