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[gingerjon]

Let's all race to the bottom and dismantle every bit of employment law and benefits for the working man, that were won by our forefathers blood, be thrown away because of me first and sod off everyone else politics.

The attitude of public sector workers to their pensions is very often "We're alright, so you sod off, no we're not changing." In their position I would do the same. My belief, cos I'm a rabid communist, has always been to ask why such things as private pensions even exist. The benefits of the public sector provision should be available to all whether or not their employer was the state.

But they are not responsible for the mess we find outselves in today

They are more to blame for the mess we find ourselves in today than Thatcher is for us having no industry (for example). It's been 23 years since Thatch made a decision, just over 2 since Labour had a cosy shower with the bankers.

But I do completely take your point about growth, incidentally.

[MikeW]

Let's all race to the bottom and dismantle every bit of employment law and benefits for the working man, that were won by our forefathers blood, be thrown away because of me first and sod off everyone else politics.

Bostik, are you under 45? If so I admire your desire to give the older generation all the opportunities that you won't be able to enjoy, because you're going to be working until past 70 to pay for the guaranteed livelyhoods of all these 100+ year old people who are going to be popping up left, right and centre in the next 30 years.

[l'angelo mysterioso]

Bostik, are you under 45? If so I admire your desire to give the older generation all the opportunities that you won't be able to enjoy, because you're going to be working until past 70 to pay for the guaranteed livelyhoods of all these 100+ year old people who are going to be popping up left, right and centre in the next 30 years.

could be wrog,if so apologies, but think a whoosh might be in order rigt there

[MikeW]

could be wrog,if so apologies, but think a whoosh might be in order rigt there

I don't think he was being sarcastic. And if you are under 45 you know that when you reach 67 it will be right in the middle of the pension time bomb the baby boomers have created for the next generation, so final salary, even for the cossetted few public sector workers will be a long forgotten memory.

[Phil]

The way is should be done? Company makes a profit and shares said profit among it's employees.

This is the way

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suma_(co-operative)

Edited by Phil, 08 March 2013 - 05:28 PM.