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Matthew Johns: Sorry bro, but Johnathan Thurston will be better than you


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#1 boxhead

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 08:14 AM

JOHNATHAN Thurston will surpass Andrew Johns as the greatest rugby league halfback our game has ever seen within two years.
The baton will be passed as it has many times before.
The way Keith Holman passed it to Billy Smith, who in turn was surpassed by Peter Sterling, who handed the torch to Allan Langer and onto Joey.
No position in the game is scrutinised like the halfback and the men who wear the No. 7 jersey are most open to comparison, regardless the era.
While other positions have evolved and changed in their requirements, the halfback role has maintained its core requirements: creativity and direction.

That's why Thurston this week re-signed with the Cowboys in a deal worth $5 million over the next four years. It's the richest deal in rugby league history - and a bargain for North Queensland.

Not a bad deal at 29 years of age.

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Edited by AndyCapp, 15 March 2013 - 08:18 AM.


#2 roughyedspud

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 08:24 AM

nah...........joey was better

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#3 Johnoco

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 08:27 AM

Thurston is absolutely brilliant, pleased he is sticking not only with RL but his club.

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No cause for so much hatred, I'm just a different man

Pull off that cover, I will too, and learn to understand

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#4 RidingPie

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 08:28 AM

Difficult to say, Joey tarnished his own legacy with his post career drug confessions (even though they weren't performance enhancers). Truth is though, at their peak I'd have either in my team.

#5 Harrigan

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 08:33 AM

TBF I don't think there is much in them now. Thurston single handedly was the difference between the Cowboys and the Dogs last week. He's a player you love to watch. It's just a shame he plays for the cowboys and not more exciting team. If he played in Sydney I reckon this would have been mentioned before now.

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#6 hindle xiii

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 08:37 AM

They're no Rhys Hanbury.

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#7 hindle xiii

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 08:42 AM

It's just a shame he plays for the cowboys and not more exciting team. If he played in Sydney I reckon this would have been mentioned before now.

Some players, Johns included, are true "one-club"* players and revel in being the big fish in the pond. Much like Lee Briers at Warrington up until the last 2-3 years.

*(pedantically, Thurston and Briers moved to their respective longevity clubs, but the point still stands)

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#8 MrPosh

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 08:50 AM

I'm a bit young to know, but could any of those even lace Alex Murphy's boots?
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#9 OMEGA

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 10:12 AM

Johns was a great player but 'The Best Ever' not for me, I'm not saying he wasn't up there as a superb player just that he's overhyped into something he wasn't. Thurston is a better player than Johns was but as good as he is Jonathan Thurston isn't 'The Best Ever' either.

#10 Johnoco

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 10:16 AM

Doubt anyone is the best ever but Thurston has to be up there. I bet he could have made it in any football code.

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#11 OMEGA

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 10:55 AM

I bet he could have made it in any football code.


Which brings me to this, apparently Karmichael Hunt is the Greatest Ever!

It just goes to show how modern day football players can, via media hype, commentator superlatives and a bit of PR, attain a status way beyond that which their skills and ability ought to dictate.

http://www.foxsports...72#.UUL8NmtYCSM

#12 Johnoco

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 11:00 AM

Thornton could, IMO, have made it in soccer too. No way is KH anywhere near Thurston as a footballer .

No I don't care if you're if you're into different bands

No cause for so much hatred, I'm just a different man

Pull off that cover, I will too, and learn to understand

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#13 trakl

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 11:00 AM

In the 4 Nations final at Elland Road the year before last, Thurston - coming into the game under an injury cloud - dictated England's downfall while seemingly hobbling about on one leg... but, with Johns mentioning Holman in the article, it is worth pointing out that the history books suggest that the latter was destroyed by a teenage Alex Murphy on his first Lions tour. The "best ever" doesn't necessarily always have to mean that the player in question is an Australian.

#14 hindle xiii

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 11:01 AM

Which brings me to this, apparently Karmichael Hunt is the Greatest Ever!

It just goes to show how modern day football players can, via media hype, commentator superlatives and a bit of PR, attain a status way beyond that which their skills and ability ought to dictate.

http://www.foxsports...72#.UUL8NmtYCSM

That link buggered my internet! Once closed it kept opening two more pages. :angry:

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#15 boxhead

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 11:56 AM

Karmichael Hunt was this biggest over hyped player ever.
He ran the ball back like a Second Rower...... what else did he do.
I cringed every time I saw him selected for a rep team, Club teams can pick who they want but you want the best at Rep level.
When he signed for AFL my thoughts were not a bad player to lose to the dark side.

#16 boxhead

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 12:02 PM

In the 4 Nations final at Elland Road the year before last, Thurston - coming into the game under an injury cloud - dictated England's downfall while seemingly hobbling about on one leg... but, with Johns mentioning Holman in the article, it is worth pointing out that the history books suggest that the latter was destroyed by a teenage Alex Murphy on his first Lions tour. The "best ever" doesn't necessarily always have to mean that the player in question is an Australian.


The game has moved on so much though and different eras can not be compared in a fair way.
The days when players were part time and each body type had a certain spot in a team are not recognizable nowadays.
Best ever call in this article is just a media seller but Thurston is the best in recent times.
Remember Andy Gregory? would he be up there in this day and age? His skill set and more so his body type and athleticism would see him not be near any first grade team in 2013

Edited by AndyCapp, 15 March 2013 - 12:03 PM.


#17 deluded pom?

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 12:04 PM

Shouldn't this be in the NRL forum?

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#18 boxhead

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 12:10 PM

Shouldn't this be in the NRL forum?


I guess so if we want no one to see it.
I thought the main Forum could use a few new posts....
I will refrain from posting any threads at all.

Cheers.

#19 trakl

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 12:14 PM

The game has moved on so much though and different eras can not be compared in a fair way.
The days when players were part time and each body type a certain spot in a team are not recognizable nowadays.
Best ever call in this article is just a media seller but Thurston is the best in recent times.
Remember Andy Gregory? would he be up there in this day and age? His skill set and more so his body type and athleticism would see him not be near any first grade team in 2013


I would have Thurston in my World X111 too and recognise his worth - but it was Johns who placed Holman among the greats and I felt it worth pointing out that he was famously ruined by a teenage genius in Alex Murphy in his first Lions tour of 1958. Too few Australian journalists, fans and players acknowledge that many of the greatest players and teams in the history of the game were other than Australian...

I disagree with your point about Gregory: His body shape, even as a teenager playing for Widnes at Wembley, was one of the curious things about him - but his creative play, his accelerative bursts and his fearlessness would mark him out as a great in any era. Thurston is great not because of his athleticism - he isn't fast on his feet and he lacks the confrontational fire that helped to make some of the greats such as Gregory stand out... but he is fast in his head and relentlessly creative and decisive in his play-making.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 12:14 PM

I guess so if we want no one to see it.


If I want to read threads about the NRL I'll go to the NRL forum. If no one uses the NRL forum that's not my problem.

I thought the main Forum could use a few new posts.....


Feel free, just as long as they are relevant to the forum you post in


I will refrain from posting any threads at all.

Cheers..


That's entirely up to you.

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