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Would this make the Challenge Cup more competitive?


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#21 Manx RL

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 09:48 PM

Just to be clear, should the Super League club only pick players that together would be able to fit under a Championship salary cap? And should Championship clubs be forced to only pick players willing to play for free when they face amateur sides?


Just to be clear, what about the amateur sides that are paid more than the semi pros? Would they be forced to take a smaller brown envelope or just have one shoe stuffed with cash?
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#22 guess who

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 11:37 PM

It needs to be handicapped.

If a team like Keighley were drawn agaisnt Wigan as someone has mentioned. Then Keighley get a 50 point start.

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 07:35 AM

It needs to be handicapped.

If a team like Keighley were drawn agaisnt Wigan as someone has mentioned. Then Keighley get a 50 point start.

Absolutely terrible idea!
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Posted 19 March 2013 - 07:42 AM

bring the super league clubs in a round later...then there'll only be 2 lower league clubs left in the challenge cup

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#25 marklaspalmas

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 10:29 AM

I'd like to see a short (say 2 minute) onfield break on 20 mins and 60 mins anyway. Coaches would love it. It'd give players chance to catch breath, drink water and regroup (esp. lower levels) and have excellent commercial opportunities (top level).

 

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#26 gingerjon

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 10:32 AM

I'd like to see a short (say 2 minute) onfield break on 20 mins and 60 mins anyway. Coaches would love it. It'd give players chance to catch breath, drink water and regroup (esp. lower levels) and have excellent commercial opportunities (top level).


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#27 hindle xiii

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 10:33 AM

I'd like to see a short (say 2 minute) onfield break on 20 mins and 60 mins anyway. Coaches would love it. It'd give players chance to catch breath, drink water and regroup (esp. lower levels) and have excellent commercial opportunities (top level).

I hope this doesn't sound like swatting it away dismissively, but don't teams get that after a try is scored anyway?

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#28 roughyedspud

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 11:23 AM

don't the aussie networks go to a break after most tries?

thats when the likes of ray warren takes the chance to welcome "overseas" fans/broadcasters....cos that bit is'nt going out on channel 9 cos they are on adverts..

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#29 marklaspalmas

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 12:19 PM

I hope this doesn't sound like swatting it away dismissively, but don't teams get that after a try is scored anyway?


Well, they don't get coached during those breaks. Scrums are breaks too, but what Im talking about is a more formal interruption. For example, Hull v Hudds on the telly the other day was a good spectacle, with very high completion rates from both sides, pretty much non-stop running & tackling but not a lot of scoring. Having a 1/4 and 3/4 point pause would just add that extra dimension to things, get the odd niggle sorted, give the coach direct player access and overall improve the spectacle without too much distraction (only 2 minutes, and on-field)

 

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#30 hindle xiii

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 12:28 PM

Poor old Paul Anderson would be knackered up and down all those stairs, they are coached throughout the game via messages to the assistant coach and water carrier, heck Mercer would be on the pitch coaching more than the sodding players at Cas. And in the case of Huddersfield and Hull, it could've possibly killed any momentum, and a game with such little stoppage isn't the norm.

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 12:38 PM

Poor old Paul Anderson would be knackered up and down all those stairs, they are coached throughout the game via messages to the assistant coach and water carrier, heck Mercer would be on the pitch coaching more than the sodding players at Cas. And in the case of Huddersfield and Hull, it could've possibly killed any momentum, and a game with such little stoppage isn't the norm.


Whatever. I still think it's a good idea. I think it already happens anyway at non-pro level on hot days, and it's definitely worth a look for the revenue possibilities at televised matches.....

 

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#32 Yakstorm

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 03:09 AM

If the general consensus is that any increases in 'breaks' would only have minimal benefit for teams in say the Championship taking on Super League sides, why don't we consider fiddling with the interchange rules?

One option could be that say any side taking on a Super League team, which isn't in Super League, you could consider allowing them to say have unlimited interchange, allow them to increase the size of their bench (say from 4 to 6), or a combination of the two. The increased ability to rotate players will help keep them fresher that bit longer, which again might help turning a match which say a London would have won by 30, into a match they only win by 10.

The same rules could apply when amateurs are taking on Championship clubs to again help try and minimise the differentials.

Anything that helps make the scorelines closer increases the chances of an upset. If we can get a few more upsets in Challenge Cup, it might help bring back some fans to the tournament.
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