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#41 Padge

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 11:00 AM

Ha ha. It certainly has inspired a reaction.

Apart from when England play against Australia or New Zealand the international game is a joke. England v anyone else in Europe is an uncompetitive joke. The lack of intensity in the Exiles games isn't the way forward either.

If British Rugby League can't escape from its petty club rivalries then it is doomed to mediocrity and a low media profile.

... and people hankering after returning to a failed past will bring about the game's demise faster than anything else.

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#42 Maximus Decimus

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 11:04 AM

Ha ha. It certainly has inspired a reaction.

Apart from when England play against Australia or New Zealand the international game is a joke. England v anyone else in Europe is an uncompetitive joke. The lack of intensity in the Exiles games isn't the way forward either.

If British Rugby League can't escape from its petty club rivalries then it is doomed to mediocrity and a low media profile.


However, that doesn't make your answer anything like the answer.

The game struggles internationally and there is no overnight fix. Certainly not the War of the Roses which IMO was less intense and actually less popular than the Exiles games.

#43 Just to be clear

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 11:16 AM

Go on then,what about players from London?


Just to be clear, as members of the Lancashire federation London developed players would obviously play for them.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 11:24 AM

how long you going to persist with "just to be clear"?......cos its a tad pathetic......#justtobeclear

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#45 The Parksider

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 11:35 AM

how long you going to persist with "just to be clear"?......cos its a tad pathetic......#justtobeclear


Talk about live and let live :rolleyes:

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 11:45 AM

c'mon....its pathetic......and pedantic


it smacks of someone hiding behind a 2nd username lol

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#47 Methven Hornet

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 11:52 AM

c'mon....its pathetic......and pedantic


it smacks of someone hiding behind a 2nd username lol


It isn't at all clear that he's kept up with recent developments in British rugby league (by recent I'm talking about the last couple of decades). The Lancashire Federation???
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Posted 30 March 2013 - 12:13 PM

how long you going to persist with "just to be clear"?......cos its a tad pathetic......#justtobeclear

It certainly is.

It's the implication that by adding those words at the start there is some kind of authority to his/her opinion. It's no more sophisticated than adding FACT at the of a sentence.

Still, I imagine that they'll be frotting themselves frantically against the side of the sofa having provoked two responses.
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Posted 30 March 2013 - 12:23 PM

Ha ha. It certainly has inspired a reaction.

Not a positive one.

Apart from when England play against Australia or New Zealand the international game is a joke. England v anyone else in Europe is an uncompetitive joke. The lack of intensity in the Exiles games isn't the way forward either.

Is this an argument for or against your idea?!

If British Rugby League can't escape from its petty club rivalries then it is doomed to mediocrity and a low media profile.

Again, is that an argument for Yorks vs Lancs or not?! The exact same situation can apply to any game involving a rep side. It's pointless that you keep repeating it because it's not an argument.
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Posted 30 March 2013 - 12:52 PM

c'mon....its pathetic......and pedantic


it smacks of someone hiding behind a 2nd username lol


Don't let facts get in the way of your argument.

For some it would be a 6th or 7th username..

#51 Bulliac

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 01:03 PM

Brilliant idea - let's re-enforce the M62 stereotype by having a Yorks V Lancs series. Oh dear... :rolleyes:

I suppose we could ask Sky to use the adagio from the 'New World Symphony' [the Hovis advert tune] to advertise the match, just to complete the own goal..

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 01:27 PM

With respect to the non-m62 players, how do the aussies deal with players who aren't from nsw or queensland? Could we not do something similar?

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 02:21 PM

With respect to the non-m62 players, how do the aussies deal with players who aren't from nsw or queensland? Could we not do something similar?


if they are from out of state...the will still have made their 1st grade debut in either QLD or NSW....and they go off that..



but as with just about every rule the aussies come up with they tend to break the rules...ie greg inglis should really be playing for NSW....but he plays for QLD

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 02:28 PM

So there's no Melbourne players born and bred that play origin?

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 05:47 PM

So there's no Melbourne players born and bred that play origin?

There's only one Melbourne player I'm aware of that's from Victoria.
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Posted 30 March 2013 - 07:32 PM

Not a positive one.


Is this an argument for or against your idea?!


Again, is that an argument for Yorks vs Lancs or not?! The exact same situation can apply to any game involving a rep side. It's pointless that you keep repeating it because it's not an argument.


If selection for the England/Britian team was dependent on and directly related to a player'sperformance in a Yorkshire v Lancashire matches then it would be competitive and the players's would have more than enough motivation. Also getting the best 26 British players on a pitch together would provide a higher and more intense standard than the Exiles games.

If I remember the problem with the County matches the last time they tired them was they weren't given a dedicated place in the schedules and the clubs were unco-operative about releasing players.

As for communicating a negative image about the geographical reach of the game I am afraid it is just an acceptance of reality, even though rugby league isn't even popular in the whole of the historic Counties of Lancashire and Yorkshire. Wales, France, Ireland and Scotland don't have viable international sides that are competitive enough to play against the top 3 teams in the World. I mean Wales were quite happy that they were battered 36-0 by New Zealand a couple of years ago.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 07:59 PM

Been saying for years yorkshire v lancashire to be played over the christmas period . One game boxing day and the return fixture new years days. Would bring back christmas fixtures for us older fans.
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Posted 30 March 2013 - 08:52 PM

If selection for the England/Britian team was dependent on and directly related to a player'sperformance in a Yorkshire v Lancashire matches then it would be competitive and the players's would have more than enough motivation.

There's a full season for players to show their worth to get into the England side. There's also a few trial games, such as the Exiles game, for them to show their worth.

Also getting the best 26 British players on a pitch together would provide a higher and more intense standard than the Exiles games.

Would it?
Are the next best 13 better than the 13 players the Exiles can field? The fact that England's first team haven't beaten them in a series yet tells me no.

If I remember the problem with the County matches the last time they tired them was they weren't given a dedicated place in the schedules and the clubs were unco-operative about releasing players.

The squads were pretty strong IIRC. Farrell, Sculthorpe, Radlinski, etc. all involved. Still managed to get stuffed by 50 points against Yorkshire though.

As for communicating a negative image about the geographical reach of the game I am afraid it is just an acceptance of reality, even though rugby league isn't even popular in the whole of the historic Counties of Lancashire and Yorkshire. Wales, France, Ireland and Scotland don't have viable international sides that are competitive enough to play against the top 3 teams in the World. I mean Wales were quite happy that they were battered 36-0 by New Zealand a couple of years ago.

A score closer than the last Roses game.
An acceptance of reality? Or a pessimistic closing of the door?

Before the game can hope to expand the foundations and commercial viability of the sport need to strengthened first with increased interest and more money coming into the sport. Better to learn how to run before you can walk.

How would a Roses game achieve this any more than an Exiles game?

For what it's worth, I'd rather England Knights were replaced by Yorkshire/Lancashire. The Knights have no competitive opposition to play. A reserve team convincingly beating a nation's first team does no good for that nation at all and doesn't really provide a great test for the reserves. Split them up city/country style. Have it as the curtain raiser to the Exiles game. Everyone's a winner.
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Posted 30 March 2013 - 10:46 PM

thats a even worse idea.....theres not the talent in france to achieve that yet


It a great idea. How do you propose to generate more talent without having more SL teams? One team is not sufficient for France as there is no culture of young lads joining English clubs (as there is with Kiwis in the NRL)

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 10:50 PM

This is a better idea, but I would go one further and have regular matches between England and other northern hemisphere sides. Proper internationals, between sides that compete in the world cup, don't give up if they don't bring competitive games immediately. By all means have a 2 match series v the Celtic Tigers as well though. That might make the earlier scotland, Wales & Ireland matches more meaningful. Exiles and roses are both dead concepts, play proper internationals.


I also like the Celtic nations idea, but would also like to suggest an ANZAC team (Exiles sounds ####) and a Pacific Nations team, plus France - then you have a decent five team comp