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#21 jacksy

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 12:57 PM

For the life of me, i cannot figure out why so many of our national coaches are so dumb.

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#22 terrywebbisgod

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 12:59 PM

For the life of me, i cannot figure out why so many of our national coaches are so dumb.

Could it be that they don't worship at the shrine that is the NRL?
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#23 jacksy

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 01:00 PM

Could it be that they don't worship at the shrine that is the NRL?


Take the club blinkers off

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 01:02 PM

Take the club blinkers off

oh dear.We have many posters that assume that the NRL is the be all and end all of Rugby League,it has nothing to do with club loyalties.So we have Widdop at 6 is that seriously enough to beat Australia,no.It's more about the mentallity of our players,not hero worshipping the Aussies,focusing on the game for 80 minutes,not switching off after an hour.

Edited by terrywebbisgod, 31 March 2013 - 01:05 PM.

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 01:08 PM

You could bring up loads of headlines with praising Widdop, he is actually class and McNamara needs to realise this quickly. Widdop is bordering on the top 5 stand offs in the world if not better, whilst realistically Chase and Sinfield wouldn't get in the top 20.

Widdop and Brough is the answer they have a complete game between them, they aren't lacking in any areas. I wouldn't put Sinfield at 13 either as I'd rather go for Sam Burgess there and have another prop in the side. I guess you could have Sinfield on the bench but I'd prefer to have Burrow as he causes problems when he comes on against Aus. Also you can't have less than 3 forwards on the bench at international level or you''ll lose.


Not sure about Brough, mate. He had a shocker on Friday. On his day, he is brilliant, but ...

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#26 jacksy

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 01:11 PM

oh dear.We have many posters that assume that the NRL is the be all and end all of Rugby League,it has nothing to do with club loyalties.So we have Widdop at 6 is that seriously enough to beat Australia,no.It's more about the mentallity of our players,not hero worshipping the Aussies,focusing on the game for 80 minutes,not switching off after an hour.


I do not assume the NRL is the be all etc...Anyone, who has sky sports and premier sports can see for themselves. The difference in the speed, quality, intensity, execution and skills of the undivduals and teams involved. I am not saying we are guaranteed to win with Widdop and Brough.I am saying they will give us more chance then a Sinfield/Chase combo.

It is irrelavent anyway because Macnamara will pick Sinfiedl/Chase anyway and you will be very happy.

Edited by jacksy, 31 March 2013 - 01:12 PM.

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 01:14 PM

Not sure about Brough, mate. He had a shocker on Friday. On his day, he is brilliant, but ...


He's one of our few halves who can be brilliant though. And we''re going to have to play brilliant to beat the Aussies. Even though he played badly Friday he's still the same player who Brian McDermott said beat Leeds by himself.

#28 terrywebbisgod

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 01:15 PM

I do not assume the NRL is the be all etc...Anyone, who has sky sports and premier sports can see for themselves. The difference in the speed, quality, intensity, execution and skills of the undivduals and teams involved. I am not saying we are guaranteed to win with Widdop and Brough.I am saying they will give us more chance then a Sinfield/Chase combo.

And if we don't win with Widdop and Brough,who are the next in line?
I don't think it matters who the half back combination is,until we lose the hero worship mentality and learn to play for 80 minutes,we simply won't beat them regularly.
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#29 terrywebbisgod

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 01:16 PM

He's one of our few halves who can be brilliant though. And we''re going to have to play brilliant to beat the Aussies. Even though he played badly Friday he's still the same player who Brian McDermott said beat Leeds by himself.

What if selected to play against the Aussies,he has an "Andy Currier" game,what then?
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#30 terrywebbisgod

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 01:29 PM

I do not assume the NRL is the be all etc...Anyone, who has sky sports and premier sports can see for themselves. The difference in the speed, quality, intensity, execution and skills of the undivduals and teams involved. I am not saying we are guaranteed to win with Widdop and Brough.I am saying they will give us more chance then a Sinfield/Chase combo.

It is irrelavent anyway because Macnamara will pick Sinfiedl/Chase anyway and you will be very happy.

And you know that how?
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#31 jacksy

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 01:36 PM

Just a wild guess...anyway, I have said my bit, we shall wait and see.

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 01:37 PM

Just a wild guess...anyway, I have said my bit, we shall wait and see.

:rolleyes: wrong.

Edited by terrywebbisgod, 31 March 2013 - 01:39 PM.

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#33 The Big Gun

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 02:03 PM

If George Burgess continues his current form he'd be starting for me. Graham as the other prop and Sam Burgess at 13.

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 02:08 PM

And if we don't win with Widdop and Brough,who are the next in line?
I don't think it matters who the half back combination is,until we lose the hero worship mentality and learn to play for 80 minutes,we simply won't beat them regularly.

I think the fact that Widdop is playing in Australia against the Australians week in week out and rather successfully means he is more likely NOT to have this hero worship mentality you describe!

In all honesty, I'm not too fussed whether Sinfield starts or not. I think he'll do a job wherever you put him. It's Chase I don't agree with playing. He's in shocking form. He doesn't deserve his spot in the slightest. If he could form a partnership with Widdop I'd be happy with that.

I just think that Widdop is the best of all four, and that Brough would be a better balance with him.

Chase wouldn't even feature. I'd have McGuire and Myler over him on current form.
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Posted 31 March 2013 - 02:09 PM

Has Tom Burgess had a game yet?
And how's Luke doing? He had good reports last year.
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#36 terrywebbisgod

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 02:11 PM

I think the fact that Widdop is playing in Australia against the Australians week in week out and rather successfully means he is more likely NOT to have this hero worship mentality you describe!

In all honesty, I'm not too fussed whether Sinfield starts or not. I think he'll do a job wherever you put him. It's Chase I don't agree with playing. He's in shocking form. He doesn't deserve his spot in the slightest. If he could form a partnership with Widdop I'd be happy with that.

I just think that Widdop is the best of all four, and that Brough would be a better balance with him.

Chase wouldn't even feature. I'd have McGuire and Myler over him on current form.

I'm not stating Widdop has the hero worship mentallity,didn't we all hear stories of our players asking Aussie players to sign there boots,it's that we need to get rid of.
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#37 terrywebbisgod

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 02:11 PM

Has Tom Burgess had a game yet?
And how's Luke doing? He had good reports last year.

Luke is currently out with a shoulder injury
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Posted 31 March 2013 - 04:23 PM

Forget the exiles, what I would pay good money to watch is a trial between Steve Mac's Super League team (and he's spent a few years building up sqad mentality and combinations) and an NRL based team of qualified players. It could only happen very late but would be a guide as to who gels with who.

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 05:28 PM

What if selected to play against the Aussies,he has an "Andy Currier" game,what then?


It wouldn't matter that much as we should qualify for the quarters whatever happens in the first game against the Aussies.

#40 terrywebbisgod

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 05:36 PM

It wouldn't matter that much as we should qualify for the quarters whatever happens in the first game against the Aussies.

So that's ok then but if Chase had a stinker would it be the usual.Is Danny Brough above criticism?

Edited by terrywebbisgod, 31 March 2013 - 05:37 PM.

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