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#101 Odsal Outlaw

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 07:59 AM

See Crabtrees performances against Aus previously. He was quality and didn't lack any aggression, I remember him running over Cameron smith a great watch.


Agree. I'd have him in based on that also. I think he offers 'something different' in the same way Burriw does - he's not a standard build RL player and that is more difficult for Aus.
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#102 Saint Toppy

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 11:21 AM

Westwood and Ellis to start for me. As they won't miss any tackles, then again neither will Farrell based on form. I keep thinking that starting with Ellis and Westwood, Burgess x 2 Graham and Roby will keep the game tight. Then bring Hock, Burrow, Crabtree and G Burgess on to change the game for 10 minutes before half time. Could have all four of them standing on the sideline waiting to come on and a massive drive from Crabtree or Hock could get the crowd raised.

Ellis doesn't deserve to be in the squad. Hasn't played at all this year, missed half of last season as well, and was quite poor in a lot of games he did play in for the Tigers last year.
Picking someone because they were great 2 years ago isn't going to win us anything (then again it is McBanana picking the team !!)

#103 terrywebbisgod

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 01:26 PM

I rate him personally I think he has a heck of a lot of ability for a back rower. He does look disinterested at times but then again who doesn't at Hull fc?

He's gone backwards since he left Cas.
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#104 Mushy

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 04:29 PM

I am not sure we have lost the series we have against Oz because of poor selection, although I haven't fully agreed with any team picked over the last 30 years! The Aussie players are generally slightly better than ours and recently have also started to play like a really solid team also.

That being said, as NZ showed 5 years ago you just need to get your players to have one or two great days and we can still win a World Cup. Whether of not Widdop plays isn't going to change that. Being well coached and having dependable players across the park who are on form and playing like a team can though. What Smith did or didn't do to our lot in 2008 to be so bad still baffles me.

#105 Ant

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 07:08 AM

Wasn't that the tour where the squad was 50% Leeds & 50% Saints players and they all just stuck in their cliques?

#106 boxhead

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 11:42 AM

I know what you mean but that's the gamble you sometimes have to take, he always seems to perform against the Aussies and that's pips it for me.

But he has only played against Australia three times and went well (2006 is a long time ago) in the first match where
England won, lost the other two
The last game he played was November 2008 off the bench luckily as England were put through the cleaners 52-4.
He is more of a liability than an asset and he would set up to blow up by Oz.

#107 boxhead

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 11:51 AM

A team is the sum of its parts, how those parts are combined to make a winning unit is what you strive for.
Using the best parts possible in the correct locations and then making them bind together and connect into a winning
Team has the highest percentage or chance of success.
Widdop if he continues his form should be one of the first Backs selected, good teams always have successful Halves.
The fact England/ GB have not won much for a while against Australia has plenty to do with inadequate Halves that can not control the game at Test level.

Edited by AndyCapp, 07 April 2013 - 11:52 AM.


#108 walter sobchak

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 12:12 PM

Widdop if he continues his form should be one of the first Backs selected, good teams always have successful Halves..[/quote]
Agreed, but we(GB,England) like playing loose forwards at stand off, andy Farrell, Paul Sculthrope, Kevin sinfield etc.

#109 boxhead

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 12:33 PM

Widdop if he continues his form should be one of the first Backs selected, good teams always have successful Halves..[/quote]
Agreed, but we(GB,England) like playing loose forwards at stand off, andy Farrell, Paul Sculthrope, Kevin sinfield etc.
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Maybe that is a mistake Walter.

A top shelf specialist player SHOULD always have more ability than a good player shifted to cover a spot that he is not ideally suited to.






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