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Law Query: The New Interpretation of the Advantage Rule


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#1 Auntie Linzi Morris

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 03:44 PM

Yesterday, London knocked on approximately 20 metres short of the Warrington try-line.

Warrington collected the ball and made about 70m, only to commit their own knock-on just short of the London try-line.

Silverwood then took play back 70m for the original offence.
Is there a case for the referee to ask the captain whether he wants to go back and have possession where the original offence took place or continue play with the opposition having to bring the ball back off their own line?


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#2 Griff

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 05:55 PM

Even if you asked, I'd rather have possession 20m from our goal than let the opposition have the ball 20m from theirs.
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#3 kapow

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 06:28 PM

This should never be called back...

You've made 70m - you've had the advantage. It's your fault that you've knocked on.

#4 babbysyed

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 09:24 PM

It sounds like Silverwood played this one right.

Its the new law this season, Warrington used their "free play" and as there was no tackle to come, play goes all the way back.

Its taken discretion out of the referees hand.

#5 Griff

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 08:09 AM

I like it. It's a play where anything can happen. Safe, "percentage" plays are out of the window.
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#6 chuffer

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 09:39 AM

This should never be called back...

You've made 70m - you've had the advantage. It's your fault that you've knocked on.


Agreed...there must come a point when the ref can call "advantage over"

#7 Griff

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 10:48 AM

Agreed...there must come a point when the ref can call "advantage over"


Yes, it's the next tackle.
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#8 Southstander13

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 11:00 AM

Im still waiting for teams to come to terms with this, Ive not seen anyone really chuck the ball about knowing they will get it back if it all goes wrong. Its the perfect time to try off the cuff, flamboyant, never say die rugby. Most of the time so far its seen a prop forward hoof the ball upfield!

Not sure if Wire made 70m by doing the above but if so then good on them! it can be a very long advantage but i quite like the idea of it, but only if the teams start to use it more wisely!

#9 Griff

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 11:27 AM

Agree. It could be played much better and smarter.
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#10 RichardJ

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 11:59 AM

What happens if Warrington throw the ball around on their free play, London legitimatley intercept the ball and score?

#11 Griff

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 12:21 PM

What happens if Warrington throw the ball around on their free play, London legitimatley intercept the ball and score?


No advantage. Warrington scrum on the 20.
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#12 Maximus Decimus

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 12:29 PM

I'm still mixed on it. I like the day of basically giving teams a free tackle to do something but I've seen teams pulled back 70 odd metres after trying something speculative and it does seem a bit silly.

From what I've heard Union have something similar when a penalty is given although the referee can still call advantage over.

#13 Griff

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 12:42 PM

It's just one tackle.
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#14 Matt J

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 03:18 PM

I like it, didnt at first, but watching teams try something which they wouldnt usually attempt adds something to the game.

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#15 Southstander13

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 03:33 PM

I do agree its a bit odd that a team could go 100m, drop the ball over the line and then travel all the way back to their own tryline to get the ball back having deemed no advantage!

But its one tackle, its up to the teams what they do with it.

Rather than force a pass after travelling 99m, they could just get take the tackle and have 6 tackles on the opposition line, having made all those metres with off the cuff, risk free rugby.

#16 Amber Avenger

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 03:37 PM

How clear do the RFL/clubs attempt to make new rules to the players? Is it down to purely coaching staff at clubs, as when this rule was enforced at Catalan vs Leeds the other day the ref had to explain it for a fair few players. You'd think coaches would want their team to be aware of something that could change the game quite drastically
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#17 Griff

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 03:52 PM

Ian Smith was at pains to discuss and explain it at our first game.
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#18 Southstander13

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 03:56 PM

How clear do the RFL/clubs attempt to make new rules to the players? Is it down to purely coaching staff at clubs, as when this rule was enforced at Catalan vs Leeds the other day the ref had to explain it for a fair few players. You'd think coaches would want their team to be aware of something that could change the game quite drastically


To be fair I think with it being a new rule sometimes instinct takes over and the players just plain forget!

#19 kapow

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 05:01 PM

Yes, it's the next tackle.


So you run 70m, get over the line, no opposition players are within 30m and you bobble putting the ball down...

Play gets called back to your 30m and you get the ball?

Ridiculous.

#20 Griff

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 06:20 PM

So you run 70m, get over the line, no opposition players are within 30m and you bobble putting the ball down...

Play gets called back to your 30m and you get the ball?

Ridiculous.


Can't say I agree.
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