Our officialdom has soft-pedalled on Islam for years. Despite all suspicion to the contrary, we've been given overall statistics that class them within an overall Ethnic Asian grouping, camouflaging any discrete difference between ethnic Hindus, Sikhs, Moslems, Buddhists, Christians, Chinese,Pakistan, Turkey, India, Bangladesh, Somalia etc.
To most westerners, the perceived indication is that the traditional muslim religious and social preference is not to class its adherents within such an overall grouping ... it regards everyone else as unbelievers of lower status.
If the muslim establishment doesn't integrate, it is entirely reasonable for the UK government to appraise and report the performance of muslim citizens in direct comparison with those of all ethnic groupings ... crime rate, educational achievement, employment rate, average state benefit claim, handicapped-child frequency, size of family, terrorist support, domestic abuse, forced marriage, vote-rigging, motoring offences, drug offences, proportion of population, net cost to the state per person etc. I'm pretty sure that other ethnic groupings would be happy to stand the comparison. In effect, my own community in Wales already has this,as its statistics are collated and quoted as a distinct entity for comparison with the contemporary findings for the English, Scottish and Northern Irish communities. I'm happy with this.
Sooner or later, someone has got to present these figures on the basis of ethnic sub-groupings. I suspect that the government does not wish to publicise them because it does not wish to promote even more dissociated schism between the Moslems and other societal ethnic groupings. People like me,who conjecture about whether such factors are overwhelmingly negative (and attract opprobrium from the Guardianistas on this board), could easily be refuted if disproving statistics were available. If my impressions are wrong, I'll gladly apologise.
However, why aren't such objective and obtainable statistics made available?
Ultimately, Great Britain is going through a recession and is about to have a load of low-quality "workers" dumped on it by EU-authorised economic migration. We already haven't got enough jobs for ethnic Britons so it's likely that a significant proportion of the Eastern European migrants will end up just claiming benefits.
Seeing as we are powerless to stop this immigration, we must do everything in our power to prevent an influx of similar deadweight immigrants from non-EU states who also have little chance of offering a nett contribution to our GDP.
Ultimately, in the city where I live, even after sixty years, we've two distinct societies ... and the whites, Afro-Caribbeans, Hindus and Sikhs are all effectively in the same one of those societal groups.
If the UK muslim social groupings knew that non-EU immigration was suspended until a greater degree of integration and achievement was established and confirmed by statistics, perhaps an impetus towards improved "performance" could be promoted.
I am certainly not saying that the "standard" muslim family grouping that is currently resident in Britain will harbour terrorist sympathies. However, it is far more likely to harbour terrorists than immigrant family groupings from other religions. if that same standard muslim family grouping offers little or nothing to the profitability of the country, then , for financial social and security reasons, why bother letting any more of the same in?
Edited by Wolford6, 24 April 2013 - 07:33 AM.