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#141 tonyXIII

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 05:09 PM

I have duly exercised my democratic duty and marked a ballot paper with the universal sign of the illiterate (Go on! I dare you! :) ). It must be twenty years since I last did that. I feel quite pleased with myself. I shall have a beer later to celebrate. :)


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#142 Ullman

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 06:05 PM

Actually, I've lived in Yorkshire since 1973, when I started at York Uni, except for 1998 - 2012, when I lived in Greece. Shhhh! Don't tell the natives, but I like it here.

 

As for cloud 9, that comes in about a fortnight when we beat your lot. ;)

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#143 Phil

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 08:10 PM

  

You mean as bonkers as Liberals/Tories and Champagne Socialists about the only MP with any decency left in the commons is Dennis Skinner (I am not a socialist) however at least he is one who sticks up for his principals
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Get away  :rolleyes:


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#144 gingerjon

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 08:11 PM

Democratic duty done. If I hadn't had to go right past the polling station I'd likely not have bothered. I weighed it up and voted Lib Dem. A reluctant vote - had we had a Green or NHA Party candidate I'd have voted for them. But the Tories & Ukip are unlikely to ever get my vote and Labour are still mightily unimpressive.

The only 'party machine' in operation was the Tories. I could be wrong but I would have thought this is prime Ukip territory. Do they have no 'Indians' prepared to follow the 'chiefs' and do the legwork to get people to the polling station?
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#145 Methven Hornet

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 08:15 PM

  You really are Scottish aren't you! You could start an argument in an empty room, eh, see you, Jimmy?

 

Are you or are you not in favour of Scottish independence? 

 

You're making ethnic slurs, on top of stories about the EU? Beware, that way lies madness - and UKIP membership!

As for the national question, all I can say at this time is that I am participating in the debate, listening to the arguments, asking for justifications and contributing in any way I can. I have certain ideas about the way Scotland should be governed, and I suppose the default position for any nation, surely, is to be in possession of its sovereignty, but I certainly want to see what the positive case for the Union is before coming to a decision. Rest assured that whatever I decide I will vote for what I consider to be in the best interests of Scotland and its people.

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#146 Methven Hornet

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 08:18 PM

Democratic duty done. If I hadn't had to go right past the polling station I'd likely not have bothered. I weighed it up and voted Lib Dem. A reluctant vote - had we had a Green or NHA Party candidate I'd have voted for them. But the Tories & Ukip are unlikely to ever get my vote and Labour are still mightily unimpressive.

The only 'party machine' in operation was the Tories. I could be wrong but I would have thought this is prime Ukip territory. Do they have no 'Indians' prepared to follow the 'chiefs' and do the legwork to get people to the polling station?

 

NHA?

As for Indians, where's Bowes?


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#147 gingerjon

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 08:43 PM

NHA?

As for Indians, where's Bowes?

NHA = National Health Action Party. Pressure group about the NHS.
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#148 gingerjon

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 08:44 PM

As for the national question, all I can say at this time is that I am participating in the debate, listening to the arguments, asking for justifications and contributing in any way I can. I have certain ideas about the way Scotland should be governed, and I suppose the default position for any nation, surely, is to be in possession of its sovereignty, but I certainly want to see what the positive case for the Union is before coming to a decision. Rest assured that whatever I decide I will vote for what I consider to be in the best interests of Scotland and its people.

As straight an answer as from any politician!
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#149 Methven Hornet

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 04:17 AM

As straight an answer as from any politician!

 

I'm learning!  :lol:


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#150 JohnM

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 06:07 AM

Well, it's start. Scottish ethnicity? In 2013?

#151 gingerjon

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 06:07 AM

In the shire county results in so far Ukip have as many councillors as Labour.
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#152 JohnM

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 07:56 AM

The "problem" of EU bureaucracy is not the number of people working in Brussels. It's the requirement to comply with EU law. I am personally very familiar with EU law on public sector procurement - the famous "OJEU" regulations.

And the problem there is not actually the regulations - it's the way people apply them. Like H&S, the issue is over-officious idiots wilfully misinterpreting the rules to make themselves feel important. The actual rules are pretty sensible and helpful.

If you took the rules away, you'd still be left with the idiots.

yes.

 

I believe its called " gold plating" where perfectly sensible and proportionate EU directives, regs etc are implemented in the UK with an added layer of complexity, strictness and " stupidity."  In the days before the Official Journal, the CCTA used to procure IT systems on behalf of govt departments. Trust me, the OJ rules as it were , are infinitely preferable!

 

It seems, though, that UK govts of any leaning are ineffective in getting the machinery of govt to stop gold plating.



#153 Wolford6

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 08:29 AM

yes.

 

I believe its called " gold plating" where perfectly sensible and proportionate EU directives, regs etc are implemented in the UK with an added layer of complexity, strictness and " stupidity."

 

It seems, though, that UK govts of any leaning are ineffective in getting the machinery of govt to stop gold plating.

 

 

That is (or more fairly was)  the Environment Agency writ large.


Edited by Wolford6, 03 May 2013 - 08:31 AM.

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#154 JohnM

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 08:44 AM

more on UKIP



#155 Wolford6

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 09:21 AM

It is quite interesting to note that, on the morning news reports that I saw, not one big-hitter from the Tory, Labour or LibDems had been delegated to comment on the results, or more specifically the UKIP performance.


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#156 Futtocks

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 09:40 AM


The Raving Looney Party have done well in these elections...

 

 

 

 

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...not so good for the Monster Raving Looney Party, though.  ;)


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#157 JohnM

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 09:45 AM

I wonder....does the team think that some of the more right wing Little Englander MPs will be persuaded to join UKIP.  I do hope so.  I would hate to see the Tories  surrender the centre just to placate its right wing. 



#158 Wolford6

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 09:54 AM

I wonder....does the team think that some of the more right wing Little Englander MPs will be persuaded to join UKIP.  I do hope so.  I would hate to see the Tories  surrender the centre just to placate its right wing. 

 

 

I think Cameron and co are doubly worried about losing MP's and sponsors to UKIP.

 

It doesn't help that the great majority of his his cabinet and entourage can be conveniently characterised as public school/Oxbridge/Millionaire/trust fund/male/arrogant tw@s who would have no idea what the price of a bottle of milk is.


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#159 JohnM

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 12:00 PM

another UKIP candidate?



#160 Derwent

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 12:05 PM

 

another UKIP candidate?

Or how about a potential Tory one ?

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