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#181 archibald

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 03:20 PM

Police involved. Election rigging?

#182 Wolford6

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 04:02 PM

Police involved. Election rigging?

 

 

I'd dread to think so. Thank goodness we never get anything like that in Bradford.

 

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#183 Bedford Roughyed

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 09:48 PM

Milliband seems so scared of the press and Tories mentioning the unions, he has ended up fighting McCluskey in public...


With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

#184 Wolford6

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 11:44 PM

Ed Miliband should be contributing to the Geekdom Beckons thread.


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#185 Steve May

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Posted 06 July 2013 - 12:45 AM

It's definitely getting more 'air' time than it should of.  Unite are not backing down and seem to be escalating it if anything.

 

 

 

 

It's still a pretty small issue at core.

 

What's happening is some high quality media spinning from the Tories new man Lynton Crosby.

 

Wikipedia on him

 

"Crosby is described as favouring what is called a wedge strategy, whereby the party he advises introduces a divisive or controversial social issue into a campaign, aligning its own stance with the dissenting faction of its opponent party, with the goal of causing vitriolic debate inside the opposing party, defection of its supporters, and the legitimising of sentiment which had previously been considered inappropriate."


That's me.  I'm done.


#186 Trojan

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Posted 06 July 2013 - 10:09 AM

It's still a pretty small issue at core.

 

What's happening is some high quality media spinning from the Tories new man Lynton Crosby.

 

Wikipedia on him

 

"Crosby is described as favouring what is called a wedge strategy, whereby the party he advises introduces a divisive or controversial social issue into a campaign, aligning its own stance with the dissenting faction of its opponent party, with the goal of causing vitriolic debate inside the opposing party, defection of its supporters, and the legitimising of sentiment which had previously been considered inappropriate."

 

Given the Tories own funding arrangements I think they have a cheek even mentioning it.  And why we ask ourselves is Grant Schapps suddenly available to do the Today programme to comment about a "scandal" in another party when he is never available to comment about scandals in his own?


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#187 archibald

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Posted 06 July 2013 - 12:59 PM

Given the Tories own funding arrangements I think they have a cheek even mentioning it.  And why we ask ourselves is Grant Schapps suddenly available to do the Today programme to comment about a "scandal" in another party when he is never available to comment about scandals in his own?

What funding arrangements?

In answer to your second part, are you suggesting that this is unique to the Tories?

Interesting to hear the Labour leader, McCluskey, decry the so called privatisation of the NHS, when his union piles pots of cash into a party that made NHS privatisation a core policy.



#188 archibald

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Posted 06 July 2013 - 01:00 PM

It's still a pretty small issue at core.

 

What's happening is some high quality media spinning from the Tories new man Lynton Crosby.

 

Wikipedia on him

 

"Crosby is described as favouring what is called a wedge strategy, whereby the party he advises introduces a divisive or controversial social issue into a campaign, aligning its own stance with the dissenting faction of its opponent party, with the goal of causing vitriolic debate inside the opposing party, defection of its supporters, and the legitimising of sentiment which had previously been considered inappropriate."

Did they cut and paste that from every other political animal?



#189 Trojan

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Posted 06 July 2013 - 07:57 PM

What funding arrangements?

In answer to your second part, are you suggesting that this is unique to the Tories?

Interesting to hear the Labour leader, McCluskey, decry the so called privatisation of the NHS, when his union piles pots of cash into a party that made NHS privatisation a core policy.

 

Well the "Leader's Group" for  a start where if you've got the cash you can have access to Dave.  New Labour used private medicine in the NHS in order to cut waiting lists.  This lot are trying to sell off the NHS and waiting lists are increasing - believe somebody who is currently on one!


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#190 archibald

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Posted 06 July 2013 - 11:06 PM

Well the "Leader's Group" for  a start where if you've got the cash you can have access to Dave.  New Labour used private medicine in the NHS in order to cut waiting lists.  This lot are trying to sell off the NHS and waiting lists are increasing - believe somebody who is currently on one!

So, you pay some cash and get access to the prime minister. Which makes me wonder why Labour don't do it. They need all the cash they can get. Especially now Bernie Ecclestone isn't allowed to advertise cigarettes, y'know, those things that give you cancer. The Labour party putting cancer over the well being of the people. Shameful.

 

Private medicine? You mean private money? Indeed they are trying to sell off the NHS, unfortunately they're scrabbling around to find the bits the Labour party never got round to selling off. Why are Unite bleating about NHS privatisation, while bankrolling a party committed to flogging off the NHS?



#191 Wolford6

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 12:38 AM

It's still a pretty small issue at core.

 

 

 

Steve

 

As Denis Healey famously said... 'When you find yourself in a hole, the first thing to do is to stop digging'.

 

This incident is going to bite Labour on the bum. Big style.


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#192 Bedford Roughyed

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 01:32 AM

It was a small dispute. Shenanigans go on at local party nominations all the time. It's not unique to labour either.

However, labour have managed to turn it into a much bigger story with the help of some prodding from the Tories.

How they have managed to do this to themselves shows a certain lack of judgement!

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With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

#193 Methven Hornet

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 08:54 AM

Labour have refered their report into Falkirk to the police.  That will calm things down...

 

They did so after Tory MP Henry Smith had written to the police asking them to investigate possible criminal behaviour.


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Posted 07 July 2013 - 08:55 AM

Labour are completely out of touch with public feeling. They had the absolute cheek to put Harriet Harman on the Marr Show to say that, although there was malpractice in Falkirk, it is not typical of the Labour Party. The really disappointing think is the gutless BBC didn't get Sophie Raworth how Harman's own husband got nominated as a candidate.

 

http://www.guardian....abour-erdington

 

 

I hope Unite gets done for fraud.


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#195 JohnM

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 09:03 AM

Miliband has a golden opportunity to come out of smelling of roses, securing victory at the next election. However, I doubt his capability to do that.

#196 archibald

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 09:45 AM

Miliband has a golden opportunity to come out of smelling of roses, securing victory at the next election. However, I doubt his capability to do that.

You think? I'm almost certain that there's no way in Hell he'll ever be PM.



#197 Wolford6

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 03:57 PM

Oh that would be terrible.He'd get straight on the phone to his Mam and start sobbing uncontrollably.


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#198 ckn

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 09:23 PM

Oh dear :D

 

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#199 Methven Hornet

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 10:01 AM

Oh dear :D

 

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He doesn't look happy. As someone else said, it's as though he's realised that this is his opportunity to take them both out, but he's not carrying a weapon!

Or Alex is saying to Dave "There may be doubts about Ed's politics, but when it comes to self-gratification he is definitely a man of the left!" ;)


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#200 Griff9of13

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 11:32 AM

The other side of the party funding coin


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