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#681 Phil

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Posted 19 January 2014 - 08:10 PM

Rubbish. Nothing more nothing less.


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#682 JohnM

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Posted 19 January 2014 - 09:18 PM

I just did.

 

Anyway,  here is Milibands policy to really sort out the banks: http://www.independe...ts-9070660.html



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Posted 20 January 2014 - 01:19 AM

Ed Miliband now reminds me of the Democrats in USA when they make campaign statements.They always talk of fighting for the middle class.Is this the term now for the working class I.E those in regular long term work?There is lots of underclass poverty in USA
but you and I weve been through that and this is not our fate.
So let us so let us not talk falsely now.
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#684 clwydianrange

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Posted 21 January 2014 - 07:56 PM

I've had a current account with Yorkshire Bank for over 40 years. Haven't been overdrawn for over 10 years and got a £1500 overdraft. In december the wife rang me up to say the card had been refused in asdas - very embarassing. When I rang to query this with the bank it turns out I had gone £1200 overdrawn and unknown to me the bank had reduced my overdraft to £600 because I hadn't used the upper limit. No apologies or nothing. Looking round now at deals and went into the local Halifax last week to talk to someone. The guy wasn't interested and just directed me to all their brochures on display and told to help myself. Whats wrong with these people. Anybody got any advice on a reliable current account?



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Posted 21 January 2014 - 09:02 PM

I've had a current account with Yorkshire Bank for over 40 years. Haven't been overdrawn for over 10 years and got a £1500 overdraft. In december the wife rang me up to say the card had been refused in asdas - very embarassing. When I rang to query this with the bank it turns out I had gone £1200 overdrawn and unknown to me the bank had reduced my overdraft to £600 because I hadn't used the upper limit. No apologies or nothing. Looking round now at deals and went into the local Halifax last week to talk to someone. The guy wasn't interested and just directed me to all their brochures on display and told to help myself. Whats wrong with these people. Anybody got any advice on a reliable current account?

 

I've never had any problem with First Direct, have recommended them to quite a few people over the years.


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#686 Wolford6

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Posted 22 January 2014 - 08:18 AM

I'm in HSBC and hate it with a vengeance.


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#687 JohnM

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Posted 22 January 2014 - 10:19 AM

Well. move , dear Lisa, move. ..try First Direct.



#688 Wolford6

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Posted 22 January 2014 - 10:24 AM

Not easy when it's a business account.


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#689 JohnM

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Posted 22 January 2014 - 10:30 AM

And when FD is owned by HSBC.

 

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#690 clwydianrange

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Posted 22 January 2014 - 06:50 PM

I've never had any problem with First Direct, have recommended them to quite a few people over the years.

Thanks John I'll have a look at them



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Posted 11 February 2014 - 02:14 PM

Ed Miliband has been struggling to come up with ideas on how to tempt back all those voters who have deserted the Labour Party in the last decade.  He's also decidedly unhappy that the Tories are hogging the press with negative publicity.  To deal with both in one go, he's decided that the best option for reclaiming people like me is to promise to manage the public sector with the same conviction as Maggie Thatcher.  Super Ed to the rescue!

 

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#692 gingerjon

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 02:36 PM

Ed Miliband has been struggling to come up with ideas on how to tempt back all those voters who have deserted the Labour Party in the last decade.  He's also decidedly unhappy that the Tories are hogging the press with negative publicity.  To deal with both in one go, he's decided that the best option for reclaiming people like me is to promise to manage the public sector with the same conviction as Maggie Thatcher.  Super Ed to the rescue!

 

My membership application is in the post...

 

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#693 The Future is League

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 02:36 PM

Ed Miliband has been struggling to come up with ideas on how to tempt back all those voters who have deserted the Labour Party in the last decade.  He's also decidedly unhappy that the Tories are hogging the press with negative publicity.  To deal with both in one go, he's decided that the best option for reclaiming people like me is to promise to manage the public sector with the same conviction as Maggie Thatcher.  Super Ed to the rescue!

 

My membership application is in the post...

To say that Ed Miliband is struggling is an understatement in my book. I and I'm sure a majority of people in this country just don't see him as a future Prime Minister.

Through reasons unknown to me he just doesn't appear able to get his message over.



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Posted 11 February 2014 - 02:46 PM

To say that Ed Miliband is struggling is an understatement in my book. I and I'm sure a majority of people in this country just don't see him as a future Prime Minister.

Through reasons unknown to me he just doesn't appear able to get his message over.

I think there's a fundamental failing in his approach to leading the party to power.  He seems to be asking his electoral strategy people to decide what's important to the voters rather than asking what's important to the people who are likely to vote Labour.  If you ask the former then you're entirely at the mercy of getting answers that'll annoy the marginals while those who might like the policy will ignore it because it's Labour.  They don't seem to want to ask the latter, not sure if that's because he's asking a disconnected group of London based PPE drones or if he really thinks he can take votes away from the Tories.

 

I don't think either main party have really grasped that the only reason there's a Tory PM now is that the population as a whole disliked him less than Gordon Brown and the Lib Dems were desperate to jump into bed with anyone.  No party "won" the last election, it's just that the Tories lost by a bit less.


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#695 Wolford6

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 11:57 AM

Just what the working class need. A saviour in a time of trouble.

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Posted 18 May 2014 - 08:04 PM

http://www.theguardi...miliband-labour

 

Is Ed worried about losing votes to UKIP ? It looks that way , I'm surprised he hasn't tried to tackle this thorny issue before now in this campaign. I guess he knows he can't beat UKIP in the Euro elections and is putting a postion down before the next general election. The idea of where UKIP gets its votes from the other 3 parties is an interesting one. While generally on here they are pegged as right wing crack pots , the UKIP stance on immigration I would have thought would resonate with a large part of Labours core vote. Unskilled workers taking jobs and bringing standards and wages down. 

 

http://www.theguardi...ty-labour-polls

Although only one poll it shows his personal polling less than the Chancellor and the PM. If they end up no where in 2015 will he keeps his job ?


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Posted 19 May 2014 - 05:44 AM

http://www.theguardi...miliband-labour

 


http://www.theguardi...ty-labour-polls

Although only one poll it shows his personal polling less than the Chancellor and the PM. If they end up no where in 2015 will he keeps his job ?

 

Of course not, he's a dead duck.

 

After defeat in the next election, Labour will have to go cap in hand to the Unions for funding; the price will be his replacement as leader. In fact, he'll probably be pushed by the Party into resigning straight after the results are in.

 

Balls might make a comeback some time down the line, but Miliband's future is as a latter day Tony Benn.


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Posted 19 May 2014 - 07:13 AM

Of course not, he's a dead duck.

 

After defeat in the next election, Labour will have to go cap in hand to the Unions for funding; the price will be his replacement as leader. In fact, he'll probably be pushed by the Party into resigning straight after the results are in.

 

Balls might make a comeback some time down the line, but Miliband's future is as a latter day Tony Benn.

That's not the usual Labour way, Kinnock got two chances as did Gaitskell, Wilson lost in '70 and came back in '74.  It's the Tories who dump leaders, as though they've got something nasty on their shoes after election defeat.  The only exception is Heath who lost 3 elections, but he won in '70 and they didn't really have time to replace him in '74. They didn't even give IDS the chance to lose, they dumped him 18 months in advance of the poll.  Perhaps the bitterness that caused is the explanation for his utter nastiness now.


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#699 Wolford6

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Posted 19 May 2014 - 07:50 AM

Gaitskell and Wilson didn't make the mistake of trying to undermine the unions' influence, as Miliband has done by saying he intended to do without the bulk of their funding.

 

The dumb cluck has turned on the very people that got him elected over his brother. As for his alternative funding ideea, well he's alienated the working class with his stand on immigration and there is no surge in individual membership. He'll be reliant on donorship from big business, which then makes the Labour Party no different to the Tories. Now he's fetched in an American marketing expert to sell the party to the electorate as if it was a new brand of baked beans. Well, half-baked is more like.

 

When was the last time the party spokesperson on any issue was genuinely working class? Yet, it expects the traditional vote to turn up on the day.

 

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#700 Derwent

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Posted 19 May 2014 - 08:12 AM

Absolute cowardice from Miliband on the Farage issue. Of course he thinks Farage is a racist, but he hasn't got the courage to say it. Spineless.


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