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#1 westhuller

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 07:13 PM

http://www.reds.co.u...e-for-sub-error

Bit steep that, am I right that Saints only got £100 when they did the same against us. I assume they will appeal.

#2 snapski

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 07:36 PM

I think it should have been more to be honest. What's to stop any team doing it.

#3 Saintslass

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 07:37 PM

Yes, you're right westhuller.  We got fined £100 in 2006.  £10,000 is a ridiculous fine.  Nobody gets fined that amount in RL for anything.  They must have plucked that figure out of nowhere because it relates to nothing at all. 


Edited by Saintslass, 08 May 2013 - 07:38 PM.


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Posted 08 May 2013 - 07:37 PM

I think it should have been more to be honest. What's to stop any team doing it.

That could have been said following Saints' doing it in 2006, yet we are now in 2013 and this is the first incidence of it so that kind of undermines your question really. 



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Posted 08 May 2013 - 07:47 PM

Yes, you're right westhuller.  We got fined £100 in 2006.  £10,000 is a ridiculous fine.  Nobody gets fined that amount in RL for anything.  They must have plucked that figure out of nowhere because it relates to nothing at all.

They had an extra player defending their line for 3 minutes - what do you think the punishment should have been?
Now then, it's a race between Sandie....and Fairburn....and the little man is in........yeees he's in.

I, just like those Castleford supporters felt that the ball should have gone to David Plange but he put the bit betwen his teeth...and it was a try

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#6 tonyXIII

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 07:48 PM

Are the rfl strapped for cash? Maybe they think they can just grab some of Dr Koukash's. On reflection, perhaps they should have docked us the 2 points - we aren't going to make the 8 or get relegated, so it doesn't matter.

 

I think it's steep (certainly in comparison with Saints) and I accept it deserved more than just a "Don't do it again you naughty boys!" Maybe £1,000 or even £5,000 would be more appropriate. I know you'll all say "Rubbish!", but I do wonder what the fine would have been had it been Wigan or Leeds in the dock.


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Posted 08 May 2013 - 07:49 PM

They had an extra player defending their line for 3 minutes - what do you think the punishment should have been?

 

3 plays, not 3 minutes, I believe.


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Posted 08 May 2013 - 07:50 PM

Bet Cas don't think it's harsh!
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Posted 08 May 2013 - 07:51 PM

Bet Cas don't think it's harsh!

 

Clearly not, from the posts so far.


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Posted 08 May 2013 - 07:54 PM

On reflection, perhaps they should have docked us the 2 points - we aren't going to make the 8 or get relegated, so it doesn't matter.

 

Quite. None of it matters. :ph34r:



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Posted 08 May 2013 - 07:54 PM

Clearly not, from the posts so far.

I've no opinion on it to be honest I was merely asking the question.

Saintslass stated that the figure was plucked from thin air so wondering what amount he would fine them without plucking it from thin air and applying reason
Now then, it's a race between Sandie....and Fairburn....and the little man is in........yeees he's in.

I, just like those Castleford supporters felt that the ball should have gone to David Plange but he put the bit betwen his teeth...and it was a try

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 07:55 PM

Are the rfl strapped for cash? Maybe they think they can just grab some of Dr Koukash's. On reflection, perhaps they should have docked us the 2 points - we aren't going to make the 8 or get relegated, so it doesn't matter.

 

I think it's steep (certainly in comparison with Saints) and I accept it deserved more than just a "Don't do it again you naughty boys!" Maybe £1,000 or even £5,000 would be more appropriate. I know you'll all say "Rubbish!", but I do wonder what the fine would have been had it been Wigan or Leeds in the dock.

Probably more.


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Posted 08 May 2013 - 07:58 PM

Probably more.

 

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:

 

In all honesty, though. Wigan and Leeds would not have got the substitutions wrong in the first place. :(


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#14 Padge

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 08:04 PM

I think it should have been more to be honest. What's to stop any team doing it.

The official in charge of controlling substitutions maybe. Just a thought. It is his job.



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Posted 08 May 2013 - 08:14 PM

The official in charge of controlling substitutions maybe. Just a thought. It is his job.


Isn't it the clubs responsibility.

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 08:25 PM

Isn't it the clubs responsibility.

No, the fourth official, if I'm understanding correctly,must hold back a replacement until the player coming off leaves the field of play, that is one of his duties.

 

He policies replacements.

 

That doesn't mean the club has no responsibilty, but the onus isn't on them to get it right.


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Posted 08 May 2013 - 08:39 PM

No, the fourth official, if I'm understanding correctly,must hold back a replacement until the player coming off leaves the field of play, that is one of his duties.

He policies replacements.

That doesn't mean the club has no responsibilty, but the onus isn't on them to get it right.


It should work like that but 90% of the time the player enters the field as the other one is still jogging off.

I thought after the Saints incident the RFL did put the onus on clubs probably why there is such a disparity between Saints fine and Salfords.

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 08:48 PM

No, the fourth official, if I'm understanding correctly,must hold back a replacement until the player coming off leaves the field of play, that is one of his duties.

 

He policies replacements.

 

That doesn't mean the club has no responsibilty, but the onus isn't on them to get it right.

I'm not convinced the onus isn't on them to get it right, I'd like to see that in writing if that is the case. Otherwise clubs could be sneaking players onto a field and simply blaming the 4th official.

 

On the actual fine, they have been found guilty of breaking 3 operational rules, and the player that didn;t leave the field made a tackle. I'm not sure of the circumstances of the Saints incident, I suspect it was less serious than what happened here?



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Posted 08 May 2013 - 08:53 PM

It should work like that but 90% of the time the player enters the field as the other one is still jogging off.

I thought after the Saints incident the RFL did put the onus on clubs probably why there is such a disparity between Saints fine and Salfords.

If a player is allowed on the field before he should be, that is the officials fault, unless the player does it in such a way as to deliberately try to con the official and gets away with it.



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Posted 08 May 2013 - 08:54 PM

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:

 

In all honesty, though. Wigan and Leeds would not have got the substitutions wrong in the first place. :(

That too.


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