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England v New Zealand - The Cricket Thread

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#1 THE RED ROOSTER

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Posted 15 May 2013 - 06:52 PM

Theres a break in the clouds and its time for the sound of leather upon willow and the start of the International Cricket season between two evenly matched sides.

 

Conditions in the UK most resemble those found in NZ and the batting line up of Kenny's boy Hamish Rutherford, Peter Fulton, Martin Guptill, Kane Williamson, Ross Taylor and Brendan McCullum hold no fear of the swinging ball, which should favour an attack of Trent Boult, Doug Bracewell and Tim Southee. Englands 12 for this test will probably see the omission of Bresnan though its should be Broad

 

There's a few things to wonder about in this series:

 

You wonder if :England have learned to pitch the ball up to Brendan NcCullum and not bowl short.

You wonder if Dan Vettori's absence fromn this series realy matters that muc,h since Dan was outbowled by Ashley Giles in 2004 and Monty Panesar in 2008. Could this be the turn for Bruce Martin and has Graham Swann's shoulder reasly recovered from surgery.

You wonder if,and it's a big if, Englands front four get to tea no more than two down whether a combination of Cook, Compton, Trott and Bell really can press home the advantage..

You wonder if someone will shout out "get Rooted" when young Joe comes toi the crease.

You wonder if the Kiwis failure to knock over the last six England wickets on that final day in Auckland leaves any mental scarring.

 

Black days for the Black Caps or Black Armbands all round at the ECB ?

 

First Test to be drawn due to weather intervening but then...

 

 


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#2 gingerjon

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 06:24 AM

Someone should tell the English media that this isn't a 'warm up' for the Ashes.
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Posted 16 May 2013 - 08:59 AM

After the last series in NZ, when most of the action happened in the wee small hours, it'll be nice to be able to follow this series and see terrestrial highlights when I get home.

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 12:03 PM

That has got to be the most soul destroyingly slow and boring two hours of cricket that I've ever seen.  I know the tactics of the game are completely different to the faster formats but a run rate of under 2 is just abysmal.  Is the aim of England's batting to bore the NZ team into falling asleep, it's working for me....

 

If it were a union game then the commentators would be going on about the subtleties and nuances of the game that make it so interesting.  Highlights would be restricted to penalty kicks.


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Posted 16 May 2013 - 02:07 PM

The commentators have just mentioned that the first innings average test scoring rate since 2000 at Lords is 3.41.  England are shuffling away at 2.08.  Just hit the bloody thing!


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Posted 16 May 2013 - 02:17 PM

105-2 after 50 overs.  I don't think I've ever seen a team bat for a draw on the first day of a test match.


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#7 Futtocks

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 02:31 PM

Even Boycott is saying the batting's too conservative. :O

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 03:39 PM

Well done to Bell and Root for stopping the rash batting and ensuring the run rate goes back below 2.


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Posted 17 May 2013 - 11:26 AM

You'd struggle to think that England were number 2 in the international rankings and NZ 8.


Maybe the last 3 bowlers can show the front line batsmen what to do when batting.


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#10 ckn

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 11:34 AM

Ah well, maybe not.


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#11 Futtocks

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 01:35 PM

England 232 all out, but Jimmy Anderson's taken a wicket in the first over.

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 02:04 PM

300 test wickets for Anderson. Good effort that.
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Posted 17 May 2013 - 02:57 PM

Quite amazing to think that Jimmy is only the 4th Englishman to get 300 wickets, and will probably be our second greatest ever wicket taker by the end of the summer.


 

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#14 THE RED ROOSTER

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 05:59 PM

Not looking good for England bowling way too short. Amazing how the relaid turf at Lords is cited as the reason why England hit so few boundaries. Obviously no-one told Ross Taylor that. Would not want to be sitting in the front rows square of the wicket tomorrow morning when England bowl short to Brendan McCullum. As they say in the trenches "incoming" ! ....

 

England are living to regret Broad's inclusion at Bresnan's expense .. and perplexed as to why Cook has not given Joe Root's offspin an exploratory over or two considering Swann is getting prodigious turn on day 2.

 

Good job rain is forecast for Sunday and Monday.


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Posted 19 May 2013 - 09:07 AM

Dear oh Dear, No rain today, England at least 50 short of a defendable score with New Zealand unlikely to bat as badly again. It seems like the "pre-ashes warm up" is not going according to plan.

Gobsmacked that the fourth estate still thinks England are favourites because with a 250 target you only need two batters to get in to achieve that total. Its all up to the bowlers again and will Anderson and Swann be more supported by Broad and Finn than in the first dig.

One ray of sunshine for England is Joe Root. As with Australians when I get Yorkies telling me how great someone is I take it with a truckload of salt, but based on what I saw in Napier and Auckland and in this Test match this is a fine young prospect that at 22 is only going to get better and is still, given the turn Kane Williamson got, an option as a second spinner.

Still Monday morning headline from the fourth estate is most likely to be Captain Cooked !


Edited by THE RED ROOSTER, 19 May 2013 - 09:07 AM.

I am an oil trader and successful at that but, but marketing, finance, business management, human resources etc are not my strengths


 

 

David Hughes to Ian Lenagan Page 134 - A Pastel Revolution - Fletcher and Gordas - 2006

 

Being an outsider, it is easiest to see what is wrong with the sport. It's a fantastic sport that has been undersold and under-marketed  because people who run it probably want to keep it the way it is

 

 

Dr Marwan Koukash to Joanthan Lieu. Sunday Telegraph 9th March 2014

 

 


#16 Ramite

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Posted 19 May 2013 - 12:10 PM

TRR I don't think so now ! I hope you didn't have a bet! At lunch 29/6. I think the target was always defendable, to chase it down would have been the 3rd highest successful chase at Lords. A difficult pitch to get in on.

Edited by Ramite, 19 May 2013 - 12:13 PM.

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#17 ckn

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Posted 19 May 2013 - 01:31 PM

Well, that was surprising!


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#18 Ramite

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Posted 19 May 2013 - 01:33 PM

Thought eng would defend that , but not that easy.
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Posted 20 May 2013 - 09:31 AM


England are living to regret Broad's inclusion at Bresnan's expense ..


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#20 Futtocks

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Posted 24 May 2013 - 10:04 AM

Rain at Headingley means there probably won't be any play 'til after lunch. Looking on the bright side, the first cake has arrived in the TMS box.

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