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#21 frank

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 03:00 AM

Amazing some of the opinions on here.

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#22 GeordieSaint

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 05:14 AM

Fascist or 'fascist lite' no matter how you dress it up is still a divisive, racist and jaundiced point of view and should be opposed at all costs. Not the sort of fans I would like to see at RL games.


It doesn't matter what your political views are, anybody should be welcome to go and watch a game of RL.

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#23 Just Browny

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 05:39 AM

Including people of immigrant origin.

I can confirm 30+ less sales for Scotland vs Italy at Workington, after this afternoons test purchase for the Tonga match, £7.50 is extremely reasonable, however a £2.50 'delivery' fee for a walk in purchase is beyond taking the mickey, good luck with that, it's cheaper on the telly.


#24 Robin Evans

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 05:47 AM


Including people of immigrant origin.


Yup!
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#25 Johnoco

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 07:08 AM

It doesn't matter what your political views are, anybody should be welcome to go and watch a game of RL.

It does though. I don't want far right people at RL games. Given RLs history of black players, how could they attend and not feel hypocrites?

I don't mean everyone at RL games should hold the same viewpoint but certain views are clearly not at ease with an inclusive game like RL. Unless perhaps they look at the game and it changes their view.

#26 GeordieSaint

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 08:40 AM

It does though. I don't want far right people at RL games. Given RLs history of black players, how could they attend and not feel hypocrites?

I don't mean everyone at RL games should hold the same viewpoint but certain views are clearly not at ease with an inclusive game like RL. Unless perhaps they look at the game and it changes their view.


How can you say RL is an inclusive game when you don't want people to attend? Are you not just being as hypocritical as them? As long as the likes of the Le Pens, Griffins et al don't use the game as a platform to spread their political views, they are as welcome as you and me to attend and talk about it.

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#27 Johnoco

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 09:11 AM

How can you say RL is an inclusive game when you don't want people to attend? Are you not just being as hypocritical as them? As long as the likes of the Le Pens, Griffins et al don't use the game as a platform to spread their political views, they are as welcome as you and me to attend and talk about it.

I'm not being inclusive by not wanting racists and facists at games? Don't talk soft.
There is no place in RL for such views as the far right, end of.

And if you knew that a party of say, NF activists were attending a game, simply by allowing them to attend with their views unchallenged is tantamount to a betrayal of players like Clive Sullivan.

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#28 GeordieSaint

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 09:22 AM

I'm not being inclusive by not wanting racists and facists at games? Don't talk soft.
There is no place in RL for such views as the far right, end of.

And if you knew that a party of say, NF activists were attending a game, simply by allowing them to attend with their views unchallenged is tantamount to a betrayal of players like Clive Sullivan.


Soft? Are you going to stop them using the local supermarket next?! There will be plenty of RL fans out there who believe in fascism. Are you going to hunt them out and stop them attending?

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#29 JohnM

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 09:24 AM

To be honest, I really don't want socialists to attend rugby games. I'm not too happy about lib dems going, either, and definitely no UKIP or oxymoronic Socialist Workers. And as for people who like raw celery..no way should they be allowed in. Maybe it would be worth finding out who Marion is and what she stands for in the context of French local and departmental politics



#30 Johnoco

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 09:28 AM

Soft? Are you going to stop them using the local supermarket next?! There will be plenty of RL fans out there who believe in fascism. Are you going to hunt them out and stop them attending?

Are there really plenty of RL fans that believe in fascism? I seriously doubt that. There will be some no doubt but that doesn't mean we start promoting ourselves as a game that is welcoming to fascists and racists - quite the opposite, we make it clear that such bigotry is not welcome.
Look at the work clubs like London Skolars are doing in inner city London and look at the make up of the children they are trying to promote the game to. Is that really compatible with people who think they should be on the next plane out of here?

#31 Johnoco

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 09:31 AM

To be honest, I really don't want socialists to attend rugby games. I'm not too happy about lib dems going, either, and definitely no UKIP or oxymoronic Socialist Workers. And as for people who like raw celery..no way should they be allowed in. Maybe it would be worth finding out who Marion is and what she stands for in the context of French local and departmental politics


As I say, there's nothing wrong with having a mix of views, in fact as you can see from this board that's what we have.
But if the game were to associate itself with such people as the far right, then I for one will be out.

#32 clement

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 09:41 AM

You'd welcome the far left then?

I'm not being inclusive by not wanting racists and facists at games? Don't talk soft.
There is no place in RL for such views as the far right, end of.

And if you knew that a party of say, NF activists were attending a game, simply by allowing them to attend with their views unchallenged is tantamount to a betrayal of players like Clive Sullivan.



#33 clement

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 09:46 AM

Would you welcome supporters of the Taliban,theres plenty of those in our towns.



#34 Johnoco

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 09:58 AM

Would you welcome supporters of the Taliban,theres plenty of those in our towns.

No, why would I? They too are a bunch of d-heads. Fascists and racists come in all colours.

#35 Futtocks

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 10:10 AM

I wouldn't ban anyone from watching RL; I just wish they'd bog off and embarrass another sport instead.

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#36 Johnoco

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 10:17 AM


I wouldn't ban anyone from watching RL; I just wish they'd bog off and embarrass another sport instead.


You don't have to ban anyone. Just make it clear that certain attitudes are not welcome. They can then change their views or look elsewhere. We don't want extremists involved in RL, I know it will lead to trouble.

#37 Futtocks

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 10:24 AM

If you follow @rlmeltdown, you'll know the sport is already followed by extremists - just not political extremists. :D

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#38 Johnoco

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 10:29 AM

Yeah, lol.

#39 walter sobchak

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 10:35 AM

I would describe myself and my political ideology as left wing socialist, I have no time for the views of Marion le pen and her party but I wouldn't dream of stopping her and her party of supporting rugby league, all the French rugby league and rugby league supporters in general need to do is state that while Marion le pen supports French rugby league, French rugby league doesn't support her or her party.

#40 Johnoco

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 10:49 AM

Yeah because we won't get tainted by association. Some of the England Rugby Union squad formed some of Ernest Mosleys bodyguards in the 1930's, this still taints RU to this day. We can't afford to send mixed messages, we have to be unambiguous here. And that means dissasociating the game from such people. However rich or influential they might be.




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