1. No I don't we have discussed this. The best kids who play RL eventually think about playing pro. I can only tell you in running a kids soccer team the kids were scouted at 10 years old and by 11 they were dreaming of being professionals. This was my experience. I can't speak for the 7 year olds but on intake they sported man U, Liverpool, Barcelons and Leeds shirts before they'd kicked a ball.
2. Again I'm sorry but you continue to ignore in big professional RL places like Leeds, Wigan and Hull they produce loads of young players.
In places where Rl is played at a lower level e.g. Doncaster, York, keighley, they produce hardly any professionals.
You say the "think" but i am giving you actual facts and experiences.
3. Yes there's half a dozen Cumbrians playing SL first team, and yes maybe in 10 years time there'll also be half a dozen londoners playing SL first team.
We need more pro players from outside the M62.
London is delivering a professional junior system and it's ludicrous to say that doesn't need a professional club.
It was also silly to say leigh delivered 200 more fans than Broncos on Saturday. This is about producing professional RL players and London produce more than leigh and have only been at it a few years...
1. i don't know about soccer, too much of a wendy game for me. I do know I joinde an amateur RL team in Keighley at the age of 15 and i did so because me and all my mates used to play endless touch rugby in the local park and fancied a go at the real thing. We had been mates for years and I know it was not the lure of a pro career in RL that precipitated that. There were about twnety of us and two did become pro with Keighley. The remaindcer went on the various professional and labouring jobs and going pro never was part of the lure.
Where I am located now is 3,000 miles from any pro Rl or pro RU team but hordes of kids are joining junior RU programmes, from deprived families to kids of the eilte and it is not the lure of a professional rugby career which is driving them.
Buying a replica jersey of your favourite team does not corellate with a desire to play professionally. Kids are not stupid. most of them are aware of their abilities from an early age and the pursuit of a pro career does not come into the equation until their skill levels suggest that it might be an option.
2. This is a chicken and egg situation. In other words did Leeds, Wigan et al cause the junior leagues to Be strong or did the presence of strong junior leagues from the dawn of the game in those areas aid in the senior club beoming a power.
The fact that many many professionals from Cumbria, Dewsbury/Batley, Leigh and lately the midlands, the north east Wales and London without there being SL clubs in the area, wouls suggest that the latter scenario is the correct hypothesis.
3. yes we need more pro players from all areas including outside the M62 and the evidence is that slowly they are emerging thanks to the growth of the amateur game and not due to the presence of a SL club in the area. i am not suggesting that A SL club in the areas cannot be a catylist to growth but i am suggesting that it is not a necessity and certainly not a reason to ring fence the failing SL club that are the Broncos
4.London have been a professional RL club since 1980, That's 33 years. Why have they only recently started producing local players.? I'll tell you why. It's because there was no decent amateur presence until the last te years or so. Its the growth of amateur clubs which produces the plares nit the presebce of a senior club.
5. Are you sure that, pound for pound, London produces many more pro plares than Leigh. there have been many many top class pro players from the Leigh rangers/Miners/ East clubs. an absolutely prolific reservoir of talent. i am sure any leigh based posters can corroborate such claims. with names. Right now, Leigh are one investor from being a better SL bet than London. I'm not saying that London dosn't have potential to be bigger, but right now they are a disaster.