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#21 LOYALION

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 10:46 AM

That would be achieved by building your own squad so as not to have too much reliance on the d/r players. This he seems to be doing by increasing our own player pool size ie Harvey, Cooper, Sarsfield, (as I asked last week) the player who was warming up at Dews who turns out to be James Brown an ex-Leeds academy player and there was another qhite large and hairy brute warming up yesterday.
This you would agree is part of that process Im sure Phillh. Yes or no will do and please no diatribe about the new stadium, hang the board and local school connection. You are correct but we've heard it before!

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#22 Bryce

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 11:47 AM

There's not too much I can add to the previous comments. It was awful to watch.

 

I like Harvey, but yesterday he was woeful. His 1 on 1 defence was non existent and I think there were 3 long passes sent out that were fairly easily cut out and lead directly to Fax tries (as if 18-60 would have been better). The team was all over the place, I'm not sure if anyone other than Richie was actually playing in their recognised position?! (I joke).

 

However, we had big players missing yesterday. Obviously O'Brien has gone but Watto's still not back, as much as he's lost pace, he would have added some much needed organisation yesterday. Shaw, again, as much as people seem to dislike him, he is our top scorer...both tries and goals. Daz...he's a massive player for us. And also Sarsfield, who has been a revelation. Richie also missed about 25-30 mins yesterday due to injury (hopefully not serious).

 

I can't remember seeing some of the players who were listed on the team sheet actually on the pitch ysterday which was worrying. But Cooper, Richie, Penny, Smithy and a couple of others certainly never gave up.

 

However, a loss against Fax isn't going to relegate us. I don't know about anyone else, but for me there are 3 must win games left...the home games against Keighley, York and Barrow (That's no offence to those teams, they'll view the games in the same way as us). Other than that, we have to pick up bonus points and possibly a big win against a fellow struggler away from home or a top 5 side at the LSV..however unlikely that seems after yesterday.

 

The moral of the story is...don't say we're a relegated team with 11 games remaining.

 

Oh, and Phil, life's too short to be down so often mate, cheer up.



#23 Bryce

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 11:52 AM

Does anyone give us a chance for next week? :rolleyes:



#24 TIM THE LION

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 01:10 PM

If we turn up with the same can't be arsed attitude then no not a chance. Some players on the team need to ask themselves if they could go home to their kids, look them in the eye and tell them that daddy tried his hardest today because if they say they could they'd be damn liars. Not happy.

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#25 PhillH

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 01:49 PM

That would be achieved by building your own squad so as not to have too much reliance on the d/r players. This he seems to be doing by increasing our own player pool size ie Harvey, Cooper, Sarsfield, (as I asked last week) the player who was warming up at Dews who turns out to be James Brown an ex-Leeds academy player and there was another qhite large and hairy brute warming up yesterday.
This you would agree is part of that process Im sure Phillh. Yes or no will do and please no diatribe about the new stadium, hang the board and local school connection. You are correct but we've heard it before!

 

No.


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#26 mark richardson

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 03:00 PM

No.


Your best post by far. ...

#27 LOYALION

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 03:02 PM

Your best post by far. ...


Apart from the answer!

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#28 mark richardson

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 03:04 PM

Yes

#29 mark richardson

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 03:04 PM

Ha ha!

#30 mark richardson

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 01:10 PM

http://www.swintonli...p-tahraoui.html

 

Theres another signing for us along with the expected signing of James Brown .



#31 LOYALION

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 06:02 PM

So that was the large hairy brute!
Remember though Mark, this and other signings to melake our squad more independent from the wire d/r situation is NOT a good thing!

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#32 PhillH

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 06:43 PM

So that was the large hairy brute!
Remember though Mark, this and other signings to melake our squad more independent from the wire d/r situation is NOT a good thing!

 

What you are witnessing is not a "change in strategy" from Swinton Lions in regard to the Partnership with Warrington, rather these signings have been done out of necessity due to flaws in the club's approach.

 

By putting such a heavy reliance on Warrington players yet not being able to retain a number of them, Swinton Lions has rendered itself so short of players that its had to draft in a handful of unproven youngsters very late in the day in order to raise a side for the second half of the season.

 

Thats all it is!


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#33 mark richardson

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 06:44 PM

We must not in any way give credit where it is due nor be encouraging or enthusiastic and all changes must result in instant success. 



#34 mark richardson

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 07:27 AM

What you are witnessing is not a "change in strategy" from Swinton Lions in regard to the Partnership with Warrington, rather these signings have been done out of necessity due to flaws in the club's approach.

By putting such a heavy reliance on Warrington players yet not being able to retain a number of them, Swinton Lions has rendered itself so short of players that its had to draft in a handful of unproven youngsters very late in the day in order to raise a side for the second half of the season.

Thats all it is!


Samir played for tweed head seagulls
A quick googling reveals he was playing in teams containing players of NRL quality .

#35 LOYALION

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 08:59 AM

Unproven youngsters aren't the future Mark. Perhaps we should assemble a team full of old has beens, or maybe break the bank and bring some 'big name' players in. Oh wait a minute, there's nothing in the bank!

Not withstanding the rumour I heard pre season that Steve Mc was struggling to sign anyone, you're damned if you do and damned if you dont!

Just a srum half to pick up now........

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#36 mark richardson

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 09:13 AM

Just had another look on the computer and I see Samirs been playing at South Wales this season although he does appear to be localish...studied at Salford uni.

 

Our coach does need to turn it around this weekend as do the players. The distinct lack of effort against Fax was a worry.

 

The new signings of Harvey(despite him having a bad game and instantly being rubbish) Sarsfield and Cooper have bags of promise,come from a proven quality background and Samir appears to have a good basis too,as does Brown if indeed we have signed him. They are just the type of player which people have been suggesting we sign all along. To now say that this is not the way forward is just being contrary for the sake of it and thats something Ive seen far too often on here.



#37 marshy1

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 06:32 PM

Devil you do, devil you don't Mark springs to mind.

#38 PhillH

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 06:42 AM

The club left itself with 2 choices - leave the squad as it was and face a high risk of being unable to field a full side of 17 players, or bring in some new faces.

 

Its that simple.

 

This is not some great shift in the club's policy on partnering.

 

This constant state of change is also not a formula to improve the club's fortunes on the field.  To do that requires far greater stability.  Most importantly the club needs to improve its ability to attract and retain players of a higher quality that can see it be more competitive in the Championship - not something that partnering in the manner its been done this season will ever deliver.


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#39 mark richardson

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 07:16 AM

Who should we sign then?

#40 LOYALION

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 09:05 AM

Its not that simple though is it.

Every team goes through an injury crisis at some time during the season. Without being able to give fringe players game time in the form of academy or what ever, as in the case of the Birkett, they choose to move on somewhere else, leaving you shorthanded. You then are forced into loan deals etc.
In our case the decision is to strengthen our squad and hope the players left out when fit stick around with us!

Its swings and roundabouts.

You are very adept at finding negatives phillh, I'll say thatfor you!

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