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#41 Bryce

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 11:08 AM

Cheer up Phil. It's not all that bad.

#42 mark richardson

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 06:52 PM

We have signed a prop from Eccles too. No doubt this will be spun into another conspiracy theory.



#43 LOYALION

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 08:08 AM

It borders Irlam that has a border with. ...........

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#44 PhillH

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 10:06 AM

Its not that simple though is it.

Every team goes through an injury crisis at some time during the season. Without being able to give fringe players game time in the form of academy or what ever, as in the case of the Birkett, they choose to move on somewhere else, leaving you shorthanded. You then are forced into loan deals etc.
In our case the decision is to strengthen our squad and hope the players left out when fit stick around with us!

Its swings and roundabouts.

You are very adept at finding negatives phillh, I'll say thatfor you!

 

Nothing you haven't said before, by the way.

 

While every side can suffer injuries not every side has willingly made itself a feeder club in the manner Swinton Lions has been willing to do this season, the effect of this strategy has been to render the club in a worse position on the issues you mention.

 

Building a squad with depth and quality is wholly incompatible with the coach not knowing until circa 3 days before the first competitive game which players the Partnered club wanted to parachute into his side, with 6 sham contracts handed out so that up to 11 such players could be effectively guaranteed a place in the 17.

 

Imagine the speil whilst trying to get a target to sign up; "We don't know yet who Tony Smith wants in the Swinton Lions line-up, but its likely to be over half of the side.  By the way - even when we've sorted that out initially and bent the RFL rules a bit to get as many Warrington players onboard as we possibly can, if later in the season Warrington have an established first team player in your position that needs a bit of game time to get fit after injury, and we want to get a few Wolves fans down to a game, you'll be dropped."

 

Little wonder it was close to impossible to get players to commit themselves to Swinton Lions in those circumstances at the beginning of the season.  Any coach would have found recruitment a major struggle.


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#45 LOYALION

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 10:42 AM

Nothing you haven't said before, by the way.

While every side can suffer injuries not every side has willingly made itself a feeder club in the manner Swinton Lions has been willing to do this season, the effect of this strategy has been to render the club in a worse position on the issues you mention.

Building a squad with depth and quality is wholly incompatible with the coach not knowing until circa 3 days before the first competitive game which players the Partnered club wanted to parachute into his side, with 6 sham contracts handed out so that up to 11 such players could be effectively guaranteed a place in the 17.

Imagine the speil whilst trying to get a target to sign up; "We don't know yet who Tony Smith wants in the Swinton Lions line-up, but its likely to be over half of the side. By the way - even when we've sorted that out initially and bent the RFL rules a bit to get as many Warrington players onboard as we possibly can, if later in the season Warrington have an established first team player in your position that needs a bit of game time to get fit after injury, and we want to get a few Wolves fans down to a game, you'll be dropped."

Little wonder it was close to impossible to get players to commit themselves to Swinton Lions in those circumstances at the beginning of the season. Any coach would have found recruitment a major struggle.

You were doing so well until you got to your second line, then you continued to do what you just accused me of. Ha ha!

You never have explained though how you KNOW these things to be true and little wonder we cant get players to sign if our fans go watching Leigh and constantly post how they aren't going to get a chance!

Edited by LOYALION, 09 June 2013 - 10:45 AM.

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#46 duffymoon

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 11:01 AM

Nothing you haven't said before, by the way.
 
While every side can suffer injuries not every side has willingly made itself a feeder club in the manner Swinton Lions has been willing to do this season, the effect of this strategy has been to render the club in a worse position on the issues you mention.
 
Building a squad with depth and quality is wholly incompatible with the coach not knowing until circa 3 days before the first competitive game which players the Partnered club wanted to parachute into his side, with 6 sham contracts handed out so that up to 11 such players could be effectively guaranteed a place in the 17.
 
Imagine the speil whilst trying to get a target to sign up; "We don't know yet who Tony Smith wants in the Swinton Lions line-up, but its likely to be over half of the side.  By the way - even when we've sorted that out initially and bent the RFL rules a bit to get as many Warrington players onboard as we possibly can, if later in the season Warrington have an established first team player in your position that needs a bit of game time to get fit after injury, and we want to get a few Wolves fans down to a game, you'll be dropped."
 
Little wonder it was close to impossible to get players to commit themselves to Swinton Lions in those circumstances at the beginning of the season.  Any coach would have found recruitment a major struggle.

spot on as ever Phil

#47 marshy1

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 11:02 AM

Nothing you haven't said before, by the way.

While every side can suffer injuries not every side has willingly made itself a feeder club in the manner Swinton Lions has been willing to do this season, the effect of this strategy has been to render the club in a worse position on the issues you mention.

Building a squad with depth and quality is wholly incompatible with the coach not knowing until circa 3 days before the first competitive game which players the Partnered club wanted to parachute into his side, with 6 sham contracts handed out so that up to 11 such players could be effectively guaranteed a place in the 17.

Imagine the speil whilst trying to get a target to sign up; "We don't know yet who Tony Smith wants in the Swinton Lions line-up, but its likely to be over half of the side. By the way - even when we've sorted that out initially and bent the RFL rules a bit to get as many Warrington players onboard as we possibly can, if later in the season Warrington have an established first team player in your position that needs a bit of game time to get fit after injury, and we want to get a few Wolves fans down to a game, you'll be dropped."

Little wonder it was close to impossible to get players to commit themselves to Swinton Lions in those circumstances at the beginning of the season. Any coach would have found recruitment a major struggle.

Hmm wasn't it a certain Mr Rowley who openly stated that will never dual reg and yet last week had three, I wonder how he explained that to the Leigh players who made way for them.?

#48 mark richardson

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 11:44 AM

Hmm wasn't it a certain Mr Rowley who openly stated that will never dual reg and yet last week had three, I wonder how he explained that to the Leigh players who made way for them.?


Its ok when its your own team Alan.
Batley fans....Fev fans ...Leigh fans ....all forget that..

Duffymoon...we know Phil makes valid points. The ideal is what he suggests. We know so well but we've heard it
Enough . Well I have.

I'll ask you are you pleased by the six permanent Swinton only signings? Is it or is it not the direction you wanted the club to take?

If not who should we sign ?

#49 TIM THE LION

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 12:00 PM

What Swinton only signings they aren't real:-D

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#50 mark richardson

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 12:09 PM

Sorry Tim ...I meant Cooper Sarsfield Harvey Brown Taharoui and the lad from Eccles ....just to clarify. ..;)

#51 duffymoon

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 04:44 PM

Yes Mark it's a step in the right direction without a shadow of a doubt.

#52 mark richardson

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 05:15 PM

Dave I hope you won that Holroyd shirt!