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Elliott Whitehead; transfer request bombshell


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#21 hindle xiii

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 08:06 AM

Whitehead could go on loan, with a view to become permanent, couldn't he? Perhaps with a player or two in the other direction.


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#22 Johnoco

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 08:09 AM

I'm only reading between the lines, possibly wrongly, but the last time I recall such poor on field spirit was just before the financial crisis was made public. Up til recently spirit has seemed ok, so the poor in field offerings combined with this latest news makes me wonder.

Also, did he seriously expect the Bulls to be a top four side less than 12 months of a new owner coming in? Seriously? And Omar hasn't money to burn like Dr Koukash and they will not be top 4 anytime soon.

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#23 Amber Avenger

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 08:17 AM

It’s a mid season slump coupled with the fact we simply can’t field the same team two matches in a row! Losing is a habit, as is winning. Not everything has to be sinister, although with the past 18/24 months at the club I understand it’s a hard habit to break.


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#24 hindle xiii

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 08:40 AM

Fascinating, if not fanciful, fairytale just occured; the Westwood to Wakefield rumour could allow Whitehead to join the club in exchange for the permanent signing of Blythe and Evans.

 

Elementary, my dear Watson.


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#25 Hullfan

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 08:40 AM

No doubt this kid is class, hope hull sign him he is better then Bateman IMO

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 08:41 AM

But he isn't saying he wants to leave the Bulls per se.  He is saying he wants to play for a 'top four' club.  That smacks of an ego problem to me rather than anything to do with the club.

 

 

I think that may besomething he's said just to camouflage a falling out with the club.

 

Francis Cummins has said he won't pick him, so something must be up. Every team in Superleague is picking first-choice players who both parties know will be moving on next season.


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Posted 06 June 2013 - 08:45 AM

I think that may besomething he's said just to camouflage a falling out with the club.

 

Francis Cummins has said he won't pick him, so something must be up. Every team in Superleague is picking first-choice players who both parties know will be moving on next season.

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#28 Spidey

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 08:51 AM

Bradford probably doing the right thing there. The guy signed what a 5 year deal last season, now not happy that they're not in "top 4" a top four that includes Hull FC who really aren't a top 4 club. It's not like Bradford are bottom of the league

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#29 MrPosh

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 08:52 AM

I just don't get this from Whitehead. I seem to remember him being one of the fiercest critics of Kopczak when he walked out.

Now, attacking wise, Whitehead would improve any team in the competition, but I'm not sure any will want to pay a fee for him. He runs hard and good lines and has an eye for the try line. However, his defence is really quite poor - he falls off tackles and misses them, too. I'm sure that this can be coached out of him, but Cummins is his third coach and sometimes you have to look a bit closer to home.

If he gets the right coach now who can improve his defence, then whoever he ends up with will have one of the best players in the competition. If he can't, they'll have an expensive mistake.

It's a shame for Bradford who are struggling in the forwards. A very small pack is already suffering from injuries and this will only make things worse, but then this season was only ever about putting a team out for every round. An achievement in itself and one that we all knew was going to happen - Whitehead included, surely?
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#30 Amber Avenger

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 09:03 AM

I just don't get this from Whitehead. I seem to remember him being one of the fiercest critics of Kopczak when he walked out.

Now, attacking wise, Whitehead would improve any team in the competition, but I'm not sure any will want to pay a fee for him. He runs hard and good lines and has an eye for the try line. However, his defence is really quite poor - he falls off tackles and misses them, too. I'm sure that this can be coached out of him, but Cummins is his third coach and sometimes you have to look a bit closer to home.

If he gets the right coach now who can improve his defence, then whoever he ends up with will have one of the best players in the competition. If he can't, they'll have an expensive mistake.

It's a shame for Bradford who are struggling in the forwards. A very small pack is already suffering from injuries and this will only make things worse, but then this season was only ever about putting a team out for every round. An achievement in itself and one that we all knew was going to happen - Whitehead included, surely?

 

Pretty much spot on in every aspect. Good post.


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#31 Bulliac

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 10:23 AM

I think that may besomething he's said just to camouflage a falling out with the club.

 

Francis Cummins has said he won't pick him, so something must be up. Every team in Superleague is picking first-choice players who both parties know will be moving on next season.

That may well be true, but I'll bet none of them have recently signed long extensions to their contracts.

 

I'm disappointed that Elliott wants to leave as I still feel he has it in him to up his game and become a better player. That said, his defence, and the number of penalties he gives away, plus the fact he is a second rower, a posiotion where we have plenty of cover [including some who are currently playing better than him] does make it easier to swallow.

 

I like the idea that we could maybe arrange a swap deal [hopefully for a prop] with presumably one of the top four. We currently have two Warrington players on loan and if they were interested, maybe a deal could be struck, though I guess the jury is still out on whether Ben Evans is really the one we need at prop - and, looking down their squad, I'd guess Elliott might not be the player Brian Smith has been dreaming of either, so maybe not.


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#32 GIANTSTRIDES

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 10:25 AM

I have always rated him  myself and i can think of a couple of coaches who could improve his game a lot.


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#33 Larry the Leit

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 10:36 AM

Perhaps he's hot sick of Franny's helium voice.

#34 Konkrete

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 11:48 AM

I can't begin to say how depressing this is. Truely awful for the club, the fans and the team. Totally and utterly undermines the rebuilding process. Of all the players, Whitehead and Batemen represent what little we've got left to be proud of.

I'm absolutley shattered by this news. If Bateman follows then that might just be me at the exit too...
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#35 The Big Gun

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 12:00 PM

I can't begin to say how depressing this is. Truely awful for the club, the fans and the team. Totally and utterly undermines the rebuilding process. Of all the players, Whitehead and Batemen represent what little we've got left to be proud of.

I'm absolutley shattered by this news. If Bateman follows then that might just be me at the exit too...

What a loyal fan you must be...

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 12:09 PM

watch this space.....................i know a certain club who will have a lot of money to spend on wages etc etconce their on loan second rower moves to parramatta.
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Posted 06 June 2013 - 12:26 PM

What a loyal fan you must be...

very very harsh
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Posted 06 June 2013 - 12:56 PM

 

What a loyal fan you must be...

I'll treat that with the utter contempt it deserves.
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#39 The Big Gun

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 01:31 PM

I'll treat that with the utter contempt it deserves.

Why? Because you made a preposterous, reactionary statement suggesting you'd stop going to Bradford if two players left?

#40 keighley

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 01:39 PM

The Bulls loss could be the ams gain. DR anyone? 

I think that may besomething he's said just to camouflage a falling out with the club.

 

Francis Cummins has said he won't pick him, so something must be up. Every team in Superleague is picking first-choice players who both parties know will be moving on next season.

 

The Bulls loss could be the Rams gain. DR anyone ?






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