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Poll: Fancy a pint with a politician? (20 member(s) have cast votes)

Who would you take a pint from and enjoy talking with while drinking it?

  1. David Cameron (3 votes [4.23%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.23%

  2. Ed Miliband (3 votes [4.23%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.23%

  3. Nick Clegg (2 votes [2.82%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.82%

  4. Nigel Farage (6 votes [8.45%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.45%

  5. Nick Griffin (1 votes [1.41%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.41%

  6. George Osborne (2 votes [2.82%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.82%

  7. Ed Balls (4 votes [5.63%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.63%

  8. Vince Cable (7 votes [9.86%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.86%

  9. Alex Salmond (6 votes [8.45%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.45%

  10. Leanne Wood (Plaid Cmryu leader) (2 votes [2.82%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.82%

  11. Theresa May (3 votes [4.23%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.23%

  12. William Hague (5 votes [7.04%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.04%

  13. Ken Clarke (7 votes [9.86%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.86%

  14. Harriet Harman (2 votes [2.82%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.82%

  15. Michael Gove (5 votes [7.04%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.04%

  16. Iain Duncan Smith (2 votes [2.82%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.82%

  17. Douglas Alexander (2 votes [2.82%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.82%

  18. Yvette Cooper (4 votes [5.63%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.63%

  19. Danny Alexander (2 votes [2.82%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.82%

  20. Another MP, MSP, MEP, AM (Welsh Assembly) or MLA (N Ireland) - see my comment (3 votes [4.23%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.23%

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#21 shrek

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 03:15 PM

Not on the list but would enjoy seeing if Boris could keep up the buffoon act for a pint or two!

 

Couldn't imagine anything worse than a pint with Osbourne or Griffin, other than that pair I think talking to any of the others on there would be time well spent.


Edited by shrek, 07 June 2013 - 03:15 PM.


#22 Wolford6

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 04:39 PM

from the list: Yvette Cooper. 

 

There is so much I could teach her. 

 

 

You could be the first man to ever make her laugh out loud.

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#23 ckn

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 04:48 PM

I agree with what you are saying (I worked directly to Brig Aldridge in the Falklands - mega bloke!). My point though was some supposedly working class leaders I have come across in my life so far are even further up their own backsides than some of the Eton/Harrow types you encounter in life. Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of upper class personalties like that too but sometimes power corrupts all.

 

I personally don't care if our leaders are from Eton School or Cansfield High School (Ashton-in-Makerfield). It is what they do in office, which counts and having been an avid reader of these political threads, it looks like nobody is happy with any levels of our political class. Wouldn't it be refreshing if people in power spoke truthfully rather than through spin?! I had this discussion at breakfast this morning. We all agreed no politician would last five mins if they were truthful!  

 

Going back to your list, if I was to choose one, I'd go with William Hague. I'd actually love to buy a house just north of Richmond if I could ever save up a large enough deposit plus I'd love to quiz him about British Foreign Policy etc.

Richmond, (N Yorks) is a dislocated part of the Home Counties, can't really be called proper Yorkshire ;)

 

I couldn't care if the cabinet were full of the entire Boris and Cameron class of the Bullingdon Club as long as they did a decent job (my subjective opinion of a decent job, obviously!).  I should have added Boris to that list as I'd love to have a few beers with him.  I utterly can't stand Nigel Farage's politics but I think it'd be a cracking night out with him, Boris, Charlie Kennedy and Ken Clarke.


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#24 Li0nhead

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 06:04 PM

Erik Joyce MP.

 

Just a reminder of him:

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk...entral-19064990



#25 Severus

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 11:30 PM

I'll probably get some stick for this but I'd enjoy a beer with either Osborne or Cameron. Both due to their chosen career could speak to practically anyone and make the conversation interesting. People from upper class backgrounds aren't an alien species. Some of them are very lucky to have been born into money and some are complete arseholes but many in my experience are good people and enjoyable to speak to. For example, some of the Generals I have met in the Army are more in touch with the ranks than many leaders from working class areas, where most of our soldiers are recruited from. Hence the comment about Osborne and Cameron.

Incidentally, I would speak to anyone over a beer on that list, including Nick Griffin. I'd obviously disagree with his policies and beliefs but it would be a good 'debate'!

Perhaps your opinions of those from the upper class have been tainted by your experience in the armed forces. I would guess, although based on no experience to speak of, that military training in addition to recruiting the best from that subset of society means that armed forces officers are a pretty decent bunch.

Edited by Severus, 07 June 2013 - 11:37 PM.

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#26 Severus

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 11:34 PM

I agree with what you are saying (I worked directly to Brig Aldridge in the Falklands - mega bloke!). My point though was some supposedly working class leaders I have come across in my life so far are even further up their own backsides than some of the Eton/Harrow types you encounter in life. Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of upper class personalties like that too but sometimes power corrupts all.

I personally don't care if our leaders are from Eton School or Cansfield High School (Ashton-in-Makerfield). It is what they do in office, which counts and having been an avid reader of these political threads, it looks like nobody is happy with any levels of our political class. Wouldn't it be refreshing if people in power spoke truthfully rather than through spin?! I had this discussion at breakfast this morning. We all agreed no politician would last five mins if they were truthful!

Going back to your list, if I was to choose one, I'd go with William Hague. I'd actually love to buy a house just north of Richmond if I could ever save up a large enough deposit plus I'd love to quiz him about British Foreign Policy etc.

Absolutely spot on. Wouldn't it be great to have politicians who said what they thought and were allowed to go 'off script' without fear of getting a telling off for not toeing the party line.
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#27 MikeW

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 01:41 AM

I met McGuinness once, briefly, he was very, very polite and very careful with his choice of words.

Was the politeness related to the rifle you had tucked under your arm, or was it in more cordial times?



#28 WearyRhino

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 10:06 AM

Have had many a pint and other assorted beverages with many politicians. Surprisingly, they're just like 'normal' people!

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#29 ckn

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 10:12 AM

Was the politeness related to the rifle you had tucked under your arm, or was it in more cordial times?

He didn't speak to me at all but to the RUC lot that were with us, he was very politely asking on behalf of the local people when some roadblocks were going to be lifted.  It was a very tense game played by the officials on both sides as this was when we were just starting to get towards a political settlement, neither side wanted to aggravate the other too much despite some pretty large and obvious tensions.


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#30 Methven Hornet

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 04:44 PM

Erik Joyce MP.
 
Just a reminder of him:
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk...entral-19064990

He's looking just a wee bit pale in that photo (which is hardly surprising).
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#31 Padge

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 10:53 PM

I don't get violent when I've had a drink, but I would imagine that one or two on that list may change that if I was boozing in their company and they attempted to explain themselves.


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#32 Saint Billinge

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 08:54 PM

I've voted for Ken Clarke so that I can have a go at him for his utter tosh of a  reply to a letter of complaint.



#33 l'angelo mysterioso

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 09:39 PM

I had a fair few pints with ed balls a couple of years back: good company

Dennis skinner would be good I like his wit
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#34 GeordieSaint

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 04:39 PM

Richmond, (N Yorks) is a dislocated part of the Home Counties, can't really be called proper Yorkshire ;)

 

I think I'd prefer north of the A66. At least then I'd definitely not be in Yorkshire and my old man wouldn't disown me! :)

 

Perhaps your opinions of those from the upper class have been tainted by your experience in the armed forces. I would guess, although based on no experience to speak of, that military training in addition to recruiting the best from that subset of society means that armed forces officers are a pretty decent bunch.

 

Maybe. There are still plenty of idiots from upper class backgrounds in the Army for certain. However, I also play cricket for the MCC, which has many upper class members and studied at Newcastle University. There have been many more decent people from those backgrounds than absolute arses. Just my experience of course and I have no doubt others have had very differing experiences. 

 

Absolutely spot on. Wouldn't it be great to have politicians who said what they thought and were allowed to go 'off script' without fear of getting a telling off for not toeing the party line.

 

Imagining a politican actually asking his constituents their thoughts before a major Parliament vote and promising to vote as they wished! Never happen of course...


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#35 ckn

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 04:52 PM

Imagining a politican actually asking his constituents their thoughts before a major Parliament vote and promising to vote as they wished! Never happen of course...

Isn't that a more granular version of what happens though?  MPs promise the earth before a General Election then typically don't bother with their promises.  A perfect example was Nick Clegg and the Lib Dems actively campaigning in large student towns with a firm, no exceptions promise to not implement tuition fees if they got in power, it was one of their headline policies that gathered them a good number of votes.  Within days of getting into the Coalition, the policy was conveniently forgotten and they actively voted for tuition fees despite the coalition agreement giving them a right to abstain.


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#36 Steve May

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 12:30 AM

Imagining a politican actually asking his constituents their thoughts before a major Parliament vote and promising to vote as they wished! Never happen of course...

 

And nor should it. 

 

It's right that MPs should have close links with their constituents and take their views into account.  But the vote in Parliament belongs to the MP and should reflect his or her thoughts, it is not a proxy for what the constituents want.   MPs are representatives, not delegates.

 

If you don't like the way your MP thinks or acts, then campaign and vote for someone else. 


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#37 Derwent

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 08:08 AM

Looking at that list it just shows what an insipid, uninspiring bunch of politicians we have these days.

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 08:09 AM

I can't imagine anyone worse to sit down with a drink with than Farage. I've had my fill of tedious xenophones whose 'common sense' views get more whacked as the booze flows through them. And I doubt he'd pay his share anyway.

Of the rest ... erm ... no, although obviously I'd buy the eponymous gent a pint on Ed Balls Day.
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#39 Wolford6

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 02:41 PM

I don't think Julia Gillard will be socialising with this Aussie politician.

 

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#40 Futtocks

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Posted 18 June 2013 - 09:56 AM

This guy would at least be interesting. :unsure:

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