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23 years in the middle

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#1 Phil

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 11:21 AM

I've decided that after 23 years of reffing I'm calling it a day and hanging up the whistle and would just like to share a few thoughts on what I've seen and experienced.

 

First and foremost I've enjoyed it all immensely, I've been lucky enough to referee some very good players and it always gives me a buzz when I see a lad playing at the top level and I can say "I reffed him in the juniors". I've made lots of friends and met lots of really nice people (some of them contributors on here), I've been lucky enough to have been invited to officiate at several finals at both local and county level.

 

I can still keep up with play and decided that I would call it a day whilst I still could.

 

There have been very few downsides but for what its worth here they are, respect for officials seems to erode a little more each year and we are being let down by the SL refs who seem to let players chat back and dispute decisions with no comeback. One or two clubs have always seemed to think that any game they lose must be down to either incompetence or, even worse, a conspiracy by officials to rob them.

 

But as I say the good times have far outweighed all that. Will I miss it? Yeah certainly for a while but I've been invited to serve on the committee of a local club so after 47 years of playing,coaching and reffing I'm going to be a "Blazer wearer".

 

Thanks to everyone I've met and to all the clubs and players involved and hopefully I'll still be seeing you on Saturday afternoons.


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#2 l'angelo mysterioso

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 12:21 PM

I've decided that after 23 years of reffing I'm calling it a day and hanging up the whistle and would just like to share a few thoughts on what I've seen and experienced.

First and foremost I've enjoyed it all immensely, I've been lucky enough to referee some very good players and it always gives me a buzz when I see a lad playing at the top level and I can say "I reffed him in the juniors". I've made lots of friends and met lots of really nice people (some of them contributors on here), I've been lucky enough to have been invited to officiate at several finals at both local and county level.

I can still keep up with play and decided that I would call it a day whilst I still could.

There have been very few downsides but for what its worth here they are, respect for officials seems to erode a little more each year and we are being let down by the SL refs who seem to let players chat back and dispute decisions with no comeback. One or two clubs have always seemed to think that any game they lose must be down to either incompetence or, even worse, a conspiracy by officials to rob them.

But as I say the good times have far outweighed all that. Will I miss it? Yeah certainly for a while but I've been invited to serve on the committee of a local club so after 47 years of playing,coaching and reffing I'm going to be a "Blazer wearer".

Thanks to everyone I've met and to all the clubs and players involved and hopefully I'll still be seeing you on Saturday afternoons.

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#3 Larry the Leit

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 12:23 PM

Well done. I'm glad you've enjoyed it, I always wonder if refs actually do.
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#4 Wellsy4HullFC

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 12:36 PM

Great post and a good insight into the life of a ref. I had a few stints reffing juniors but wanted to concentrate on playing. I enjoyed it, which is why I still ref the occasional open age friendly if asked (love the banter if it's a team I'm involved with!) but know what you mean about respect.

Some clubs are brilliant at enforcing respect in their fans and players, however there are some clubs that don't and are pretty awful places to be. It disheartened my to see a coach telling his 13 year old players that they were doing fine and the ref was robbing them! They weren't doing fine, they kept getting penalised for ill-discipline! Same club, different age group, same issues with coaches, players and supporters.

There wouldn't be a game without the refs. But I guess it's a bit of a cultural thing to not show respect to authority these days.
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#5 Just Browny

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 12:56 PM

Enjoyed your post Phil - great stuff. I can't express my admiration enough for people who make such a contribution to the game over such a long period.

The respect question is a tricky one and I hope you will share your views with those at the top of the game. We can exaggerate what goes on in Super League sometimes. For example, Lee Briers has always had a reputation as a moaner but I think TV microphones have always shown him to be someone who gives his views with full respect and with no little banter with the refs. To show I'm not imbuing this with club bias, Michael Monaghan has occasionally flown much closer to the wind. I don't like to see it and the effect on refs at local level is significant. It disappoints me that marching teams a further 10 or turning a scrum into a penalty has all but disappeared as a punishment for the more fashionable teams.

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#6 Bomballey

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 12:57 PM

Well done Phil. It takes a wide skill set to do that job properly and earn respect.

The RFL are not supporting referees enough at the moment with discipline and technology issues. TV is picking up too many things that are not being addressed eg forward passes that are putting refs under pressure. Assistant referees need developing and need to contribute more.

It could be much worse though - it could be like football!! Multi billion pound industry where games are officiated by an attention seeker with 2 watches and needing a ten yard piece of string to get a wall back & keep it back. Truly laughable

Enjoy your stint in the blazer

#7 simonwref

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 01:24 PM

Good post and good luck.
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#8 amh

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 03:01 PM

Phil you've certainly given your all to the game, and it is very much appreciated. All good things come to an end , but I'm sure you've inspired many current officials and left your mark.


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#9 Wolford6

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 05:55 PM

Own up, it was time to jack it in. When they handed you that blazer, everyone else could see it was a forward pass.

;) :tongue:

 

 

Congratulations and many thanks for putting something into the game. Twenty three years of getting changed in some of those  changing rooms deserves a medal in itself.


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#10 Swansea Jack

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 04:07 PM

Well done. Glad that you enjoyed your years as a referee. Good to hear that you will not be lost to Rugby League. People like you are too valuable to lose.



#11 John Rhino

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 05:52 PM

Tried reffing juniors once or twice at festivals, the adreneline got to me and it was not pretty so I take my hat off to you. 

 

Well done and glad you decided to still make a contribution to the game.

 

Retiring with lots of memories I suspect.


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#12 Padge

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 09:46 PM

What can you say, utmost admiration for anyone who takes up the whistle, To stick at it so long says a lot about your commitment and patience.

 

Enjoy yor new life as a 'blazer' and thanks for your contribution so far to the game.



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#13 Saint Billinge

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 08:30 AM

I've decided that after 23 years of reffing I'm calling it a day and hanging up the whistle and would just like to share a few thoughts on what I've seen and experienced.

 

First and foremost I've enjoyed it all immensely, I've been lucky enough to referee some very good players and it always gives me a buzz when I see a lad playing at the top level and I can say "I reffed him in the juniors". I've made lots of friends and met lots of really nice people (some of them contributors on here), I've been lucky enough to have been invited to officiate at several finals at both local and county level.

 

I can still keep up with play and decided that I would call it a day whilst I still could.

 

There have been very few downsides but for what its worth here they are, respect for officials seems to erode a little more each year and we are being let down by the SL refs who seem to let players chat back and dispute decisions with no comeback. One or two clubs have always seemed to think that any game they lose must be down to either incompetence or, even worse, a conspiracy by officials to rob them.

 

But as I say the good times have far outweighed all that. Will I miss it? Yeah certainly for a while but I've been invited to serve on the committee of a local club so after 47 years of playing,coaching and reffing I'm going to be a "Blazer wearer".

 

Thanks to everyone I've met and to all the clubs and players involved and hopefully I'll still be seeing you on Saturday afternoons.

 

Well done on a lengthy career. You must have some great memories and lots of humour to look back on. Until becoming an airline pilot, my nephew's lad was an up and coming rugby league referee and who still takes charge of the odd game when he can. 



#14 gingerjon

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 08:32 AM

Echoing what others have said: thanks for all that you've done, and will continue to do, for the game and congratulations for doing the job for so long.
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#15 hindle xiii

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 08:38 AM

I've decided that after 23 years of reffing I'm calling it a day and hanging up the whistle and would just like to share a few thoughts on what I've seen and experienced.

 

First and foremost I've enjoyed it all immensely, I've been lucky enough to referee some very good players and it always gives me a buzz when I see a lad playing at the top level and I can say "I reffed him in the juniors". I've made lots of friends and met lots of really nice people (some of them contributors on here), I've been lucky enough to have been invited to officiate at several finals at both local and county level.

 

I can still keep up with play and decided that I would call it a day whilst I still could.

 

There have been very few downsides but for what its worth here they are, respect for officials seems to erode a little more each year and we are being let down by the SL refs who seem to let players chat back and dispute decisions with no comeback. One or two clubs have always seemed to think that any game they lose must be down to either incompetence or, even worse, a conspiracy by officials to rob them.

 

But as I say the good times have far outweighed all that. Will I miss it? Yeah certainly for a while but I've been invited to serve on the committee of a local club so after 47 years of playing,coaching and reffing I'm going to be a "Blazer wearer".

 

Thanks to everyone I've met and to all the clubs and players involved and hopefully I'll still be seeing you on Saturday afternoons.

Just out of interest:

  • What region(s) did you referee in?
  • If you did an established region and an expansion region, what were the differences?
  • What's changed the most since 1990?

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#16 clement

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 09:18 AM

Just out of interest:

  • What region(s) did you referee in?
  • If you did an established region and an expansion region, what were the differences?
  • What's changed the most since 1990?
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#17 hindle xiii

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 09:52 AM

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#18 Phil

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 06:24 PM

Just out of interest:

  • What region(s) did you referee in?
  • If you did an established region and an expansion region, what were the differences?
  • What's changed the most since 1990?

 

Most of my reffing was done in the Pennine League, I did 4 years running the line in the pros but couldn't commit as much as I would have liked to because of work. I did a few seasons in the old summer league, mainly expansion teams. The main difference always seemd to me to be that expansion teams were much slower at the play the ball and that quite often their defence was very poor.

 

the main things that have changed is unfortunately in the behaviour of players, in the last few years the idea of taking a hit or even a bit of rough stuff without moaning has gone right out of the window.

 

In one of my last games a young prop came up to me and whined (actually whined, he had a whiny voice) "Ref everytime we have a scrum their number 10 punches me"

 

I leaned close to him and said "You know what you need to do?"

 

"What ref?* he replied

 

"strap a pair on lad you're playing Rugby League"


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#19 GeordieSaint

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 06:30 PM

In one of my last games a young prop came up to me and whined (actually whined, he had a whiny voice) "Ref everytime we have a scrum their number 10 punches me"

 

I leaned close to him and said "You know what you need to do?"

 

"What ref?* he replied

 

"strap a pair on lad you're playing Rugby League"

 

:D

 

Good luck wearing that blazer!


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