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Rangi Chase hurt by 'discrimination' over England call up


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#1 The Daddy_merged

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 10:29 AM

http://www.thesun.co...gland-call.html

 

Would that not make the whole of international sport discrimatory? imo I wouldn't play him for England because. 

 

1. They're are better players available.

2. He's not English



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Posted 12 June 2013 - 10:35 AM

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#3 Ponterover

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 10:40 AM

The fact is that there are better English qualified half backs that should have been chosen ahead of him.

 

The fact that he's not English is therefore irrelevant, although I do understand the sentiment.



#4 JohnM

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 10:44 AM

1. Does he meet the qualification criteria?

2. Ha he been judges good enough to play by those who have the authority,  power and qualifications to make such decisions?



#5 plug

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 11:03 AM

how can he play for england when he cant even change club sides because of visa rules ????

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 11:42 AM

how can he play for england when he cant even change club sides because of visa rules ????

This, he can't even get a Visa to switch jobs i this country and gain permanent employment. 

Whatever rule there is which made him eligible for England is a sham.



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Posted 12 June 2013 - 11:46 AM

I don't remember people complaining this much when Maurie Fa'asavalu played for Britain. Chase has an English wife and child, considers England his home and wants to play for England. If he is good enough I see no problem.



#8 Dave T

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 12:38 PM

Well, I for one wish him all the best and I hope he gets his hands on that World Cup at the end of the year and goes down in history for England RL.



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Posted 12 June 2013 - 12:44 PM

He qualifies for England under the rules, debate the rules if you want but it's not his fault. This is modern sport like it or lump it.

 

He is also a very good dynamic player that can produce things not many players can, he's also chosen to play for the country that has treat him well and given him opportunities in the game he plays. Good luck to the lad.



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Posted 12 June 2013 - 12:45 PM

I don't remember people complaining this much when Maurie Fa'asavalu played for Britain. Chase has an English wife and child, considers England his home and wants to play for England. If he is good enough I see no problem.


They did you know

I was watching him play and had to ask some stewards to step in thanks to the frankly racist comments from some so called fans at one game and the same arguments against Chase playing were levelled then too

Personally I have utterly no problem with him qualifying for England, thems the rules all international sides play to so if he can do the job why not.

#11 christopher

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 12:46 PM

how can he play for england when he cant even change club sides because of visa rules ????

 

 

Because working Visas have a different set of criteria to national sport qualification.



#12 hindle xiii

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 12:48 PM

I don't remember people complaining this much when Maurie Fa'asavalu played for Britain. Chase has an English wife and child, considers England his home and wants to play for England. If he is good enough I see no problem.

I've probably complained as much for Chase as I did for Fa'asavalu, not a lot and certainly not ranting. And to me these are slightly separate in that Chase changed, while in my view with Fa'asavalu it was "what's wrong with representing Samoa?".


If you use "should of", "would of" or "could of", you are a moron.

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#13 hindle xiii

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 12:51 PM

I might have to severely bite my lip if the Burgii play for Australia after they get residency. <_<


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#14 roughyedspud

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 01:29 PM

thats never gonna happen

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#15 MikeFletchersBarmyArmy

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 02:42 PM

The joke is that you only have to play 3 seasons in one country to then claim to be a national of that country. I have family working in different parts of the world. Yes they enjoy working there & their life but after only 3 years, it isn't that long. They are still very much English as when they left, even thought they respect & live as part of that country's way of life.
Living for 10% of your life in a country is not long at all.
The residency rule should be 10 years or at least to make it respectable a third of your life.
If he was really English, he would of never played for the exiles, I would of thought he would of found it very strange to play against the country you class yourself as, love & to live in for your rest of your life as you very much would not be a exile.

#16 Bulliac

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 02:49 PM

The joke is that you only have to play 3 seasons in one country to then claim to be a national of that country. I have family working in different parts of the world. Yes they enjoy working there & their life but after only 3 years, it isn't that long. They are still very much English as when they left, even thought they respect & live as part of that country's way of life.
Living for 10% of your life in a country is not long at all.
The residency rule should be 10 years or at least to make it respectable a third of your life.
If he was really English, he would of never played for the exiles, I would of thought he would of found it very strange to play against the country you class yourself as, love & to live in for your rest of your life as you very much would not be a exile.

Ten years would just about prevent any senior player moving abroad and playing for that country.


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#17 MikeFletchersBarmyArmy

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 02:58 PM

It would of worked for Robbie Paul,
3 years is just too short, and in that 3 years the player could only be living here in total of 2 years, while going back to his homeland in the off season

#18 Larry the Leit

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 03:00 PM

Should the same apply to Englishmen such as Lee Briers, Kieron Cunningham, Danny Brough, Iestyn Harris etc?


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#19 MikeFletchersBarmyArmy

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 03:04 PM

For the established nations yes. For the developing one that's a different, if you wish to improve the standard for them.

If England are picking an Englishman in Chase, then they are picking an Australian in Sam Burgess. If the same logic is applied

#20 l'angelo mysterioso

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 05:11 PM

Chase qualifies
The sole criterion for his selection should be based on his ability to play to the required standard not how 'English' he is
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