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#21 Viking Warrior

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 08:32 AM

vinty karalius, the man who introduced fitness training as a norm at widnes and built a great team, plus the name itself was enough to scare the antipodeans to death........
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#22 latchford albion

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 01:24 PM

Didn't know that

I remember reading John Gray quoted saying that he had never trained as hard as under Murphy at an England training session. I used to regularly watch Warrington train at Loushers Lane at that time and either the England training was much more intense or Wigan hardly bothered.

Anyway he was pretty successful. Australia won the 1975 World Cup only because England lost to Wales: the two games against Australia ended in a draw and a win for England.

#23 marklaspalmas

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 04:47 PM

Rugby league's Brian Clough was Peter Fox.

 

Yes I know, Fox did coach GB in 1978, but the RFL ducked out of giving him the 1979 tour which wouldn't have been the shambles it was if Fox had been in charge. He should've been GB coach up to Mal Reilly, and could've single-handed masked the enormous gulf that was developing between the two countries to the point where the apocalyptic Invincibles 1982 Tour never happened with its subsequent awakening in the British game and the inevitable ensuing slavish copying of all things Australian in search of an unattainable holy grail whilst being unable to shed a crushing inferiority complex which led to.......

 

Need I go on?


 

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#24 deluded pom?

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 04:49 PM

isn't that 50% of the queens jubilee decorations

Aargh aargh aargh aargh BOOM BOOM Mr Derek.

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#25 oldrover

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 05:52 PM

Aargh aargh aargh aargh BOOM BOOM Mr Derek.

reap what you sow baby, lol


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#26 Phil

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 06:42 PM

Rugby league's Brian Clough was Peter Fox.

 

Yes I know, Fox did coach GB in 1978, but the RFL ducked out of giving him the 1979 tour which wouldn't have been the shambles it was if Fox had been in charge. He should've been GB coach up to Mal Reilly, and could've single-handed masked the enormous gulf that was developing between the two countries to the point where the apocalyptic Invincibles 1982 Tour never happened with its subsequent awakening in the British game and the inevitable ensuing slavish copying of all things Australian in search of an unattainable holy grail whilst being unable to shed a crushing inferiority complex which led to.......

 

Need I go on?

 

Could we stop you?


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#27 Bostik Bailey

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 07:42 PM

Gavin Murry

#28 Pie tries

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 12:22 PM

Based on what, his excellent coaching record in our sport?


Sir Clive Woodward then !

#29 Trojan

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 02:25 PM

Rugby league's Brian Clough was Peter Fox.

 

Yes I know, Fox did coach GB in 1978, but the RFL ducked out of giving him the 1979 tour which wouldn't have been the shambles it was if Fox had been in charge. He should've been GB coach up to Mal Reilly, and could've single-handed masked the enormous gulf that was developing between the two countries to the point where the apocalyptic Invincibles 1982 Tour never happened with its subsequent awakening in the British game and the inevitable ensuing slavish copying of all things Australian in search of an unattainable holy grail whilst being unable to shed a crushing inferiority complex which led to.......

 

Need I go on?

 

That's what I think. He was certainly a motivator.  Whether we'd have put up a better show against the Aussies in 1982 is open to question.  I recall the Aussie no 11 (Rod Reddy?) running from the 25 yd line and scoring at Headingley in the decider against Foxy's side in 1978.  No one even laid a hand on him.  We hadn't a forward who could do that. 


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#30 deluded pom?

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 03:25 PM

Gavin Murry

Go on then, I'll fall for it. Who is/was Gavin Murry (sic)?


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#31 Bostik Bailey

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 03:48 PM

Go on then, I'll fall for it. Who is/was Gavin Murry (sic)?


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#32 deluded pom?

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 04:25 PM

It was a St. Helens coach company

An 'in' joke if ever there was one. I'm indebted to you BB.


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