So the work of the author of the official history of the game
A former official historian of the game
The current official historian of the game
And a primary source is discredited then?
I read what they wrote and gave it credence, why wouldn't I?
It isn't me that's calling Sunderland a racist but them. My view on the validity of naming the trophy after him is based on what they say(I read gates obituary if Francis at the time)
Both gate and collins have contributed abd contribute historical articles and obits to LPL titles
Let's let sleeping dogs lie eh?
Rugby league has more in common with union than I thought
It is the original propagaters of the story in their published work who have to answer to sunderlands descendents if they are wrong and to the people who have given credence to their work
Don't be so bloody ridiculous. You are willing to say RL is morally corrupt now because everyone on here doesn't agree with your one man witchhunt? Do me a favour.
Of course you are calling Sunderland racist, so don't hide behind others. You don't even seem willing to entertain the thought that this may have been simply a misunderstanding or anything like that, you have from the get go called for his name to be removed. All most people are asking for is a little more evidence and perhaps a black player from that era to say 'Actually, he called me a black so &so and said we were useless', before jumping in and condemning a mans name for the sake of modern sensitivity. What is so unusual in wanting a bit more of a back up? You have no more idea than anyone else about the actual truth of the affair, you have simply jumped on the white mans burden routine and assumed that Sunderland is guilty.
Which he may be, he could have been the biggest racist ever to draw breath for all I know, but forgive me for not accepting that just because some bloke on an internet message board tells me that it is so.