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England to play Italy in historic first international


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#21 boxhead

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 01:00 PM

An international team full of Aussies who cant get in their national side - just what the game needs.

No different than the last World Cup, Australia supplied about 100 "heritage players" to various teams.

If that is changed then the World Cup will become a comp of three strong teams and a bunch of park players in the rest of the teams.

I am neither for or against it.



#22 ehbandit

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 01:18 PM

BARLA team was...
1. Dave Hedgecock
2. Stephen Norton
3. Phil O'Neil
4. Darrell Cooper
5. Wayne McHugh
6. Darren Jones
7. Terry Lynn
8. Stuart Dancer
9. Mark Jackson
10. Nigel Halmshaw
11. Brian Newby
12. Ian Devlin
13. Scott Fletcher
Sub: Rob Shaw, Paul Davidson, Phil Sherwen, Paul Birdsall

thanks!

#23 colin84hunter

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 01:29 PM

i agree it should have been given to a staidum that didnt get a WC game, Keepmoat (should have had a WC game, rather than two at Craven Park), Halton Stadium or Bramall Lane (or even reebok).

 

I will be going though.

 

Who will the other host nation play against in their warm up game? France?



#24 HKR AWAY DAYS

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 01:46 PM

The fact that this game is being played at all is what interests me. Good stuff!



#25 jim_57

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 02:06 PM

Not a fan of the choice of venue. Having it played in Italy would have been ideal, failing that a venue that didn't have a WC fixture. I'd say alot of the crowd for this match will be picking instead of and not aswell as a WC game.

Also a risky choice of opposition for England, if they slip up against a team seen as a minnow one week out from the World Cup it won't be a good look. Hopefully any media in the lead up to the game promotes the strength of the Italian team because they won't be shirt of NRL players

#26 Doghead

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 02:23 PM

thought it was announced last week.

#27 brooza

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 02:41 PM

thought it was announced last week.

Not officially, but some reporters mentioned it in articles


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#28 colin84hunter

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 02:45 PM

Not officially announced last week, confirmed today

 

Will Sky go for this seen as they missed out on the WC? or does the fact it is on the Saturday mean it will be a 14:30 ko on the bbc. (or PS?)

 

I would prefer it to be on the bbc so it is in line with the world cup



#29 Evil Homer

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 02:51 PM

This match should be taking place in Italy. Having an England warm-up match (which England could conceivably lose) at a WC venue is a ridiculous decision.



#30 brooza

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 03:09 PM

This match should be taking place in Italy. Having an England warm-up match (which England could conceivably lose) at a WC venue is a ridiculous decision.

But Italy are coming here anyway. What would be the point in playing the match in Italy and then both teams having to fly over here in the week running up to their opening fixtures when they could be in England preparing?


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#31 jim_57

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 03:16 PM

But Italy are coming here anyway. What would be the point in playing the match in Italy and then both teams having to fly over here in the week running up to their opening fixtures when they could be in England preparing?


The crowd doesn't detract from any WC games and Italy get a marquee fixture to promote in the country right before the World Cup.

Play it in a nice small football or Union ground and get some cheap tickets and decent promotion going. Then promote Italy in the World Cup during the game. Could/Should/Would do wonders for Italian Rugby League.

On the contrary England/RFL have alot more to lose then they have to win by hosting this fixture.

#32 South Wakefield Sharks

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 08:56 PM

This match should be taking place in Italy. Having an England warm-up match (which England could conceivably lose) at a WC venue is a ridiculous decision.

 

Wow, steady on there! If we play rubbish, people dismiss it as meaningless. If we play anyone who might be competitive, then it goes down as "ridiculous" because we might lose. Why do you watch the sport? To see us hammer people, to see us lose, or to see us play in matches which could go either way?

 

We had the same before the Exiles. "OMG, what will this say about England if we lose to the Exiles", then when we won, it was because the Exiles were rubbish!!

 

Don't know how the stadium was chosen, but perhaps Salford bid for it? The report says the RFL have "agreed terms" with Salford City Reds. Maybe Dr K thinks hosting England in a World Cup warm up will be good for his club, to convince locals that Salford is at the forefront of RL and not just some dross team scraping along on the bottom of the game?

 

BTW I read somewhere that the match will be broadcast by the BBC, as part of their World Cup lead in. Be great if that were true, and would fit in with the coverage they game of the tri-nations last year.



#33 statties

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 09:01 PM

I remember barla beating Italy in 2000 world cup , I think the coach of Italy played in it, with a lot of nrl players also. cant see them being a test for England!

 

Don't be so sure. They are my dark horse for a semi spot. I think they will beat Wales. Beating us, no, testing us, yes

 

It should have been Lebanon


Except they can't afford to pay for their Aussies to travel for a per WC warm up. Italy is a great choice.

  

We'll be battle hardened for the world cup opener then, nothing like hammering a team full of part timers to prepare a side.
What a farce, they'd have been better off playing a team made up of players from the Championship.

  

The team will probably be quite strong but the galling thing to me is that they should be using more of the Italian players. I mean I can see the sense from a coach point of view, but it is a bit unfair imo.


I expect them to win by about 20, rather than the hammering you suggest.

If each nation picked only local players then just play the Tri Nations and an emerging nations cup beneath it. But then don't expect pacific island nations to travel and to watch standards below NCL 3

#34 boxhead

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 09:12 PM

I thought this part of the article was worth a separate mention.

 

With so many sports stars and their agents squeezing their sports for every last cent or pent, it's refreshing to hear top Australian rugby league players eligible to represent Italy in next year’s World Cup in the UK have offered to play for free.

Roosters legend Minichello has played for Australia and recently made a comeback at fullback for NSW amid an injury crisis, but has long been out of the reckoning for Australian selection.

His dad arrived in Australia aged 13 and the family still identifies strongly with the Italian heritage.

"My family will just be proud to see me running around in an Italian jumper," he said.

http://www.tntmagazi...ld-cup-for-free


 



#35 Dave T

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 09:12 PM

The venue is a shocking choice.

 

The venue is trying to sell tickets for Scotland v USA - why on earth would anybody go to that over England v Italy.

 

Often feels like 1 step forwards, 2 steps back.



#36 Johnoco

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 09:22 PM

Statties, Italy weren't a choice, they beat Lebanon to qualify. But I think (could be wrong) that they used some Aussies as opposed to Lebanon who used more local players.

#37 Evil Homer

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 12:05 AM

^ Both sides fielded the strongest available teams, which consisted of both locals and overseas-based players. Italy also didn't beat Lebanon, they tied and Italy went through by virtue of points difference. It's the second time Lebanon have failed to qualify for a WC without losing a match.

 

There is no glory and no points for fielding a fully domestic sides. Nobody wants to see a bunch of amateurs be whipped by 100+ points, nothing is gained and it's also a concern for the players' safety.


Edited by Evil Homer, 04 July 2013 - 12:07 AM.


#38 statties

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 04:52 AM

Statties, Italy weren't a choice, they beat Lebanon to qualify. But I think (could be wrong) that they used some Aussies as opposed to Lebanon who used more local players.

 

aahh when you said it should have been Lebanon I thought you meant the warm up game, not who qualified.

 

FYI, Lebanon had only one local player in their entire squad and he played about five minutes. The rest were Aussies just like Italy.

 

I wish Lebanon qualified over Italy though. They have every right to be upset too when Steve Ganson blew his whistle about 6 minutes early for full time in the Russia v Lebanon. The final points difference in the WCQ was in the favour of Italy by 8 points. 

 

Apparently they lost a half million dollar deal by missing out on qualification



#39 1976PMJwires

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 06:09 AM

A warm up game is a warm up game!!
Nothing more to say.

#40 Pottsy

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 06:38 AM

Most sports don't allow fixtures in the host country so close to World Cup. Seems odd to me.

Finances aside, why not play this at a boutique stadium in Italy?




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