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#1 Keith T

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 10:34 AM

After yet another meeting it seems even more certain that the RFL and SLE are pushing our game in to the system of having two divisions of 12 dividing in to 3 groups of 8 after a full programme of matches.

Each division of 12 will play the other 11 teams home and away and the top division will play their Magic Weekend match. The top 8 teams in the top division will then play each other once more either at home or away giving some teams 4 home and others 4 away!!!

The second group of 8 will be made up of the teams that finished 9 - 12 in the top division and the teams that finished 1 - 4 in the second division. This group will play each other just once either home or away and again with an uneven number of home or away matches. The top four in this group of 8 will then join the top group of 8 to form the top division of 12 for the following season.

The third group of 8 will play each other just once again with an uneven number of home and away games with the bottom team being relegated in to the Championship 1 and replaced by the Champion of that league.

Apart from all the financial mismatch between clubs on £1.2 million and clubs on £180k funding I still can't work out which club would be the Champions of the second division of 12. Is it the top club after the 22 matches or is it the top club after the 7 additional games because that is obviously two different teams?

If it is the top team after 22 matches then what is the point of the other clubs playing the additional 7 games other than to decide which club is relegated, which again is an unfair system and a team that was clear bottom after 22 matches could have a good 7 additional games and someone else gets relegated!!!! Could the team that finished 5th be the Champions from playing 7 games with 4 at home and 3 away? Could the team finishing top come 5th in the middle group of 8 and win nothing?

I can see why the SL clubs are wanting this system because it is fairly certain that everything is geared up for them to maintain the status quo. I cannot see why any Championship club, even Fev, would want this system where they will not only play against 4 SL clubs but also 2 ex-SL clubs relegated to get the divisions down to 12. What exactly are the benefits for teams like us or Haven or Barrow in that third group of 8?

It seems that everyones views have been taken in to account other than the fans and I have yet to meet anyone who has a good word for this system. Paul Cullen was saying on Boots'n All last night that clubs need to be informing their fans just how they have voted and for more transparency.

I remember when .............................

"It is impossible not to feel a twinge of sympathy for Workington Town, the fall guys this season for the Super League's determination to retain it's European dimension, in the shape of Paris. While the French have had every assistance to survive, the importance of having a flagship in a heartland area like West Cumbria has been conveniently forgotten." - Dave Hadfield - Independent 25th August 1996.


#2 The Voodooguru

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 11:18 AM

Only the RFL could come up with such a stupid idea that will only benefit the elite clubs, and disregard the impact it will probably have on the others.

The worst of it is that the clubs with aspirations ( or dillusions of grandeur) from the Champ will probably vote it in too. They will then face the reality of trying to cope with playing teams with salary caps almost tenfold of their own too much to compete with and end up going into administration, the same may happen to the SL teams that don't make it to the big table and have to play Champ teams. The RFL will then point the finger at the club and blame them for getting into that financial mess.

Any bets whether we would get the 4 home or 4 away matches?


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#3 DavidM

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 11:44 AM

The unimpressive guy from the RFL , in among all the management speak and presentation waffle , seemed to be saying that they know what they want ( this proposed system ) and they'll nod and be sympathetic to whatever clubs and players say ... But we'll end up with what we want anyway . The guy on the Rod Studd show hit the nail on the head when he talked about the quality of person at Red Hall ... They look a pretty unimpressive and amateurish organisation . The decisions they've made and the way they come across are poor , and you wonder if they've any clear vision or top level competence there at all . The governance puts the sport in a poor light all round .. Remember the woman from the RFL a few weeks back who was responsible for taking the officials kit to a game and didnt turn up until halftime as she didn't know the kick off time !! But it doesn't really matter because Gary Hetherington runs RL anyway doesn't he ? Or thinks he does ?

Edited by DavidM, 04 July 2013 - 11:47 AM.


#4 GeordieTownie

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 12:19 PM

Will there be any play offs under that structure?

#5 morty

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 12:45 PM

no wonder the game is on its ar se


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#6 wonky

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 01:59 PM

its a total joke. its the only sport that changes its structure every 4-5 years, its rules every year but never the muppets in charge.
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#7 widnesrlfc

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 03:33 PM

What a ###### system only the RFL can bring terrible ideas.

#8 recre2

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 07:11 PM

At least it'll lean towards the clubs from the Championship as if they keep to within 12 points they may get a bonus point while the SL clubs won't even know what that is. Or will it be changed so that all the leagues play by the same rules and also how many imports they're allowed, now that is radical!!!!