I don't think we differ much. We both believe there will have to be less clubs.
We both believe these clubs have to have money.
Where we wildly differ is the definition of having money. You think it's having a multi-millionaire owner.I think it's having a large fan base and many local businesses interested in the club
Which club is the richer one? One with empty stands and no academy,or one with 15,000 fans packed in and a vibrant player production line?. I think the latter.
Your accountancy seems such that just because the rich man has £Millions in the bank the club is rich. Please consider the salary cap, he can be no richer than that in his input - unless he spends well on his academy which he doesn't.
You seem to think going into administration means a club has no money. Bradford will have £1.800,000 a year from SKY more than the salary cap, Bradford will have big crowds whether 8,000 or 15,000. To paint them as having no money is wrong, they didn't have enough money because their fellow clubs took £1,200,000 off them. That's the truth of it.
Finally you take the stance that we should have less clubs but that if we cut the number of clubs fans "won't watch another club". How can you know the minds of tens of thousands of RL fans and assume they all think the same? We saw with Bradord that their "fans" in 1995 numbered an average of 5654.
Somehow they managed to attract another 10,000 fans and more? All Bradford born, never been outside of Bradford?
I'm fine to agree to disagree but the points above are there to deal with if you wish.
Well we aren't that far apart in our end game, but you keep on taking what i say i think will happen, as what i want to happen, They are two very different things.
I believe somewhere down the line, (maybe after my time and yours ) that Clubs will have to reduce, whether there are mergers or not, but i expect it to have more to do with money and being able to keep standards up than the size of crowds.
You know as well as i do that in the real world of League, Sky are funding it, Till they came along Wigan won everything for a decade, the rest were also ran's.
The latest deal is reportedly £200.000000, Now you tell me in your honest opinion, Do you really think Sky care what Bradfords ( or anyone elses crowd is ) They are paying that kind of money to sell dishes, not cause they love Rugby league. For that money they want as many as poss sat in front of the telly, with your Direct debit ticking along. Very cynical ? maybe ,but It's what's happening.
I agree that the clubs with big crowds will still be the bigger clubs because of the extra revenue, but thats fine they deserve to be.
I agree with you about Bradford, If they had a money man and a half decent stadium, they could be right up there with the best, ( they have been ) But at this moment in time they don't have either one , and so unless that changes they will always struggle, The upkeep of the ground alone must be daunting.
In the future it will be the clubs who Know how to market themselves, How to get in big paying sponsers, how to make their clubs ,like Wigan or Leeds if you like, And I'm not saying Fartown will be one of them. Wolves and Saints are getting there, Despite being close together. Hull have every chance, Catalan are growing,
Big crowds are very desirable, but they are by no means essential, The future will be about getting to the levels of the Aussies, On the field and off it, It will not be easy because of Soccer, But it will either go forward with people like IL or it will go nowhere like it was when Sky came along, Just my opinion , and it may not be what we all want , But it's what Sky want that matters, they more or less own the game now.
Regards Salford and the Dr, I don't know how they will go, I hope they go well, They will certainly be better than they were, If they compete well and are good to watch, that will do me, If the Dr pulls out a few years down the track , So what ! they will have had some good years and they can start up again like any other club.