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Is it really all my fault?


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#1 PurstonJavelin

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 05:54 PM

Having had the misfortune to have been born in a small Northern town and of being a loyal supporter of the local team, I am, apparently, a small-minded, self-interested, flat earth believing, banjo playing, flat cap wearing, bigoted dinosaur responsible for holding back Rugby League from it's rightful place in the sporting hierarchy.

 

Do I have a claim, however, that my views, thoughts, beliefs and desires have no impact whatsoever on the state of British rugby league? No one is influenced by me, those like me, or our teams. We have not had a say in the running, development, or organisation of the sport for over a decade. Any input, possibly quite rightly, has been taken away from us.

 

If the sport does not meet expectations, it is not our fault. If those who make the decisions have to make changes because they are worried about the progress of the sport, it is not our fault. When London finally fail, when the Salford euphoria comes to nothing, it will not be our fault. When SKY reduces its money, it will not be our fault. When Bradford, Hull KR, Huddersfield and others, find themselves in financial trouble, it will not be our fault. Failure to generate an appetite for the sport in new areas is not our fault. And when the 12 team Super League reduces to 10 and then 8 teams, it will not be our fault. Others decide the course of the sport's progress. We may make a little noise, but we do not run the game, or even influence, or effect it. The teams in the lower leagues have no effective say in the decisions of the game; we supporters have no influence whatever. For a while now, our teams have been told what to, and the views of a few thousand supporters are a total irrelevance. Anyone wanting to attribute any sort of blame should work out exactly who is making the decisions, and for whose benefit.

 

Disappointingly, some of us may have a smile if any of the above crises occur; small-minded self interest is quite unpleasant. But big-minded self interest is much more destructive.



#2 HKR AWAY DAYS

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 05:56 PM

You don't sound very optimistic, mate.



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Posted 12 July 2013 - 06:03 PM

Your perpetual misery and that of your fellow travellers IS to blame for many of the games ills, cheer up. Interest is growing in new areas - see championship 1. We are soon starting a world cup, potentially the best ever, talk the sport up don't try and death ride it until you get the chance to say 'I told you so'
Rugby League is a sport that desperately needs to expand its geographical supporter base and its player base. This imperative means that all other requirements are secondary until this is done.

All power in the game should be with governing bodies, especially international governing bodies.

Without these actions we will remain a minor sport internationally and nationally.

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 06:05 PM

 

Having had the misfortune to have been born in a small Northern town and of being a loyal supporter of the local team, I am, apparently, a small-minded, self-interested, flat earth believing, banjo playing, flat cap wearing, bigoted dinosaur responsible for holding back Rugby League from it's rightful place in the sporting hierarchy.

 

Do I have a claim, however, that my views, thoughts, beliefs and desires have no impact whatsoever on the state of British rugby league? No one is influenced by me, those like me, or our teams. We have not had a say in the running, development, or organisation of the sport for over a decade. Any input, possibly quite rightly, has been taken away from us.

 

If the sport does not meet expectations, it is not our fault. If those who make the decisions have to make changes because they are worried about the progress of the sport, it is not our fault. When London finally fail, when the Salford euphoria comes to nothing, it will not be our fault. When SKY reduces its money, it will not be our fault. When Bradford, Hull KR, Huddersfield and others, find themselves in financial trouble, it will not be our fault. Failure to generate an appetite for the sport in new areas is not our fault. And when the 12 team Super League reduces to 10 and then 8 teams, it will not be our fault. Others decide the course of the sport's progress. We may make a little noise, but we do not run the game, or even influence, or effect it. The teams in the lower leagues have no effective say in the decisions of the game; we supporters have no influence whatever. For a while now, our teams have been told what to, and the views of a few thousand supporters are a total irrelevance. Anyone wanting to attribute any sort of blame should work out exactly who is making the decisions, and for whose benefit.

 

Disappointingly, some of us may have a smile if any of the above crises occur; small-minded self interest is quite unpleasant. But big-minded self interest is much more destructive.

 

with you all the way (except i can't play the banjo)


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#5 Methven Hornet

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 06:07 PM

with you all the way (except i can't play the banjo)

 

But you do believe in a flat earth?


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#6 oldrover

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 06:32 PM

But you do believe in a flat earth?

no, a flat cap


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#7 knottla

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 06:47 PM

Well put Purston Javelin, what a post ,although I don't believe for one minute your thoughts will hit home to those in their ivory towers.Like oldrover I don't play the banjo or have a whippet or pigeons.



#8 Ian (Pencil) Elliott

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 07:02 PM

 

Having had the misfortune to have been born in a small Northern town and of being a loyal supporter of the local team, I am, apparently, a small-minded, self-interested, flat earth believing, banjo playing, flat cap wearing, bigoted dinosaur responsible for holding back Rugby League from it's rightful place in the sporting hierarchy.

 

Do I have a claim, however, that my views, thoughts, beliefs and desires have no impact whatsoever on the state of British rugby league? No one is influenced by me, those like me, or our teams. We have not had a say in the running, development, or organisation of the sport for over a decade. Any input, possibly quite rightly, has been taken away from us.

 

If the sport does not meet expectations, it is not our fault. If those who make the decisions have to make changes because they are worried about the progress of the sport, it is not our fault. When London finally fail, when the Salford euphoria comes to nothing, it will not be our fault. When SKY reduces its money, it will not be our fault. When Bradford, Hull KR, Huddersfield and others, find themselves in financial trouble, it will not be our fault. Failure to generate an appetite for the sport in new areas is not our fault. And when the 12 team Super League reduces to 10 and then 8 teams, it will not be our fault. Others decide the course of the sport's progress. We may make a little noise, but we do not run the game, or even influence, or effect it. The teams in the lower leagues have no effective say in the decisions of the game; we supporters have no influence whatever. For a while now, our teams have been told what to, and the views of a few thousand supporters are a total irrelevance. Anyone wanting to attribute any sort of blame should work out exactly who is making the decisions, and for whose benefit.

 

Disappointingly, some of us may have a smile if any of the above crises occur; small-minded self interest is quite unpleasant. But big-minded self interest is much more destructive.

 

Were an easy target mate.  Just because we enjoyed a whinge at how we had been treated, we are tagged with being small minded in breds.

 

Now the cosy little world of licensing is near an end they can't say that it has failed, oh no.  It has give them more unjustified amo to sling our way, well just like usual keep slinging it because we aren't going away.


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#9 l'angelo mysterioso

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 07:03 PM

and still they whinge


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Posted 12 July 2013 - 07:06 PM

......about people whingeing that they're whingers......

#11 l'angelo mysterioso

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 07:15 PM

......about people whingeing that they're whingers......

stop whingeing


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#12 Northern Sol

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 07:28 PM

It's not that working class people in small Yorks and Lancs towns like the sport that is the problem. The problem is that the game is not popular enough outside this demographic.



#13 Methven Hornet

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 07:31 PM

no, a flat cap

 

Bigoted dinosaur, perchance? :)


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#14 Methven Hornet

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 07:39 PM

......about people whingeing that they're whingers......

 

Hasn't the British game had a problem in finding whingers, especially since the likes of Martin Offiah and Jason Robinson left the game?


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Posted 12 July 2013 - 07:58 PM

It's not that working class people in small Yorks and Lancs towns like the sport that is the problem. The problem is that the game is not popular enough outside this demographic.

 

Hit the nail on the head there - and until that fact is recognised the game will never grow in this country.



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Posted 12 July 2013 - 07:59 PM

Hit the nail on the head there - and until that fact is recognised the game will never grow in this country.

well said


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#17 l'angelo mysterioso

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 08:01 PM

Bigoted dinosaur, perchance? :)

OR knows his rugby league

he's neither of these things MH


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Posted 12 July 2013 - 08:06 PM

Bigoted dinosaur, perchance? :)

bigoted, no. dinosaur, well since they announced the return of P&R, i'm in raptors.


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#19 Methven Hornet

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 08:07 PM

OR knows his rugby league

he's neither of these things MH

 

I am absolutely sure he isn't, I was just referring to the original post!


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Posted 12 July 2013 - 08:07 PM

bigoted, no. dinosaur, well since they announced the return of P&R, i'm in raptors.

 

:)


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