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#1 Bostik Bailey

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 11:54 AM

So fracking companies are to pay a reduced rate if tax.

Where is a large proportion of shale gas in England? The Forrest of Bowland.
Who us the main land owner in the Forrest of Bowland? The duke of Westminster.
Who is a major contributor the the Tory party? The duke of Westminster .

Something smells and its not just my nose.

#2 Johnoco

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 12:16 PM

If it means less relying on the Russians for our oil supplies then I say bring it on.

#3 Northern Sol

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 08:23 PM

Tax breaks are common in new industries. It helps them get established then you milk them.



#4 gingerjon

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 08:26 PM

So fracking companies are to pay a reduced rate if tax.

Where is a large proportion of shale gas in England? The Forrest of Bowland.
Who us the main land owner in the Forrest of Bowland? The duke of Westminster.
Who is a major contributor the the Tory party? The duke of Westminster .

Something smells and its not just my nose.

 

Gideon's family are doing well out of it as well.


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#5 Li0nhead

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 09:31 AM

So fracking companies are to pay a reduced rate if tax.

Where is a large proportion of shale gas in England? The Forrest of Bowland.
Who us the main land owner in the Forrest of Bowland? The duke of Westminster.
Who is a major contributor the the Tory party? The duke of Westminster .

Something smells and its not just my nose.

 

 Looking at the map on the following link:

 

http://www.bgs.ac.uk...as/howMuch.html

 

I see large areas of the country have some form of shale gas under it.....

 

Clearly following your thinking everyone who owns land its under is part of some giant Conservative party funding conspiracy and non of those who own any of that land has ever, ever supported any other party....It stinks of a conspiracy does it not? Or is it time to take the tinfoil hat off? 



#6 tonyXIII

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 10:56 AM

Tax breaks are common in new industries. It helps them get established then you milk them.

 

Have I missed the irony, or do you seriously think the Conservative Party will "milk them"?

 

Like they "milk" the likes of Google, or Starbucks, or the owners of the Telegraph or Guardian?  :ohmy:


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#7 JohnM

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 05:27 PM

So fracking companies are to pay a reduced rate if tax.

Where is a large proportion of shale gas in England? The Forrest of Bowland.
Who us the main land owner in the Forrest of Bowland? The duke of Westminster.
Who is a major contributor the the Tory party? The duke of Westminster .

Something smells and its not just my nose.

 

I think this form of  post hoc reasoning lacks a certain intellectual rigour.



#8 Northern Sol

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 10:12 PM

Have I missed the irony, or do you seriously think the Conservative Party will "milk them"?

 

Like they "milk" the likes of Google, or Starbucks, or the owners of the Telegraph or Guardian?  :ohmy:

About to the same extent that Labour do.



#9 tonyXIII

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Posted 22 July 2013 - 08:25 AM

About to the same extent that Labour do.

 

And that is the real problem facing the British voter today. Do I vote for full-fat (Tory) or semi-skimmed (Labour)? Oh the choices!  :sclerosis:


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#10 archibald

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Posted 22 July 2013 - 09:34 AM

 

And that is the real problem facing the British voter today. Do I vote for full-fat (Tory) or semi-skimmed (Labour)? Oh the choices!  :sclerosis:

There's no problems whatsoever. There's plenty of independents out there to vote for. Grow a set and do it. If you don't like the Tories policies, why the hell would anyone vote for a party that has exactly the same policies? And then whine about the Tory policies some more. It's an affliction that affects Labour voters en masse.

#11 gingerjon

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Posted 22 July 2013 - 10:10 AM

About to the same extent that Labour do.

 

So, it's not common to give tax breaks to a new industry and then milk it?


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#12 JohnM

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Posted 22 July 2013 - 11:24 AM

This just in:  

 

HS2 scrapped.

 

Fracking licences granted all across the Chilterns.

 

Imagine the outcry!!  



#13 gingerjon

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Posted 22 July 2013 - 11:36 AM

This just in:  

 

HS2 scrapped.

 

Fracking licences granted all across the Chilterns.

 

Imagine the outcry!!  

 

Earthquakes under Chequers?


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#14 JohnM

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Posted 22 July 2013 - 02:07 PM

Exactly. The true measure of the support for fracking, new clear power, hosing developments, windmills,Tesco  etc is when it happens in the back garden of someone with power.



#15 tonyXIII

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Posted 22 July 2013 - 03:01 PM

 
There's no problems whatsoever. There's plenty of independents out there to vote for. Grow a set and do it. If you don't like the Tories policies, why the hell would anyone vote for a party that has exactly the same policies? And then whine about the Tory policies some more. It's an affliction that affects Labour voters en masse.

 

Frankly, I think party politics stinks and I wish it could be consigned to the dustbin. However, most posters on here are over twelve and know that the idea of truly independent representatives in power is just a figment of a fevered, and rather naive, imagination.

 

Independents do not get elected. I don't think there have been more than a handful since the Second World War, and none at all since the 70s.

 

But please feel free to correct me.

 

edit. Just checked. 14 since 1950. However, most describe themselves as "Independent Labour" or "Independent Conservative". Of the others, there's George Galloway (Respect) and Caroline Lucas (Green). That leaves just Martin Bell (1997, Tatton) and Dai Davies (2006, Blaenau Gwent) as truly "Independent".

 

Even if you count them all, it is little more than a handful.


Edited by tonyXIII, 22 July 2013 - 03:07 PM.

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