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#1 Derwent

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Posted 23 July 2013 - 06:20 AM

The RFL have carried out assessments of the various club and regional academy set-ups and have published their ratings.

Out of 18 academies, 3 are rated as being outstanding, 7 are rated as good, 4 require improvement and 4 are rated as being weak.

The 3 outstanding academies are at Leeds, Wigan and St Helens - congratulations to them.

http://media.therfl....tation 2013.pdf

#2 gingerjon

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Posted 23 July 2013 - 06:49 AM

Very interesting.  Thanks for posting.


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#3 stevietomato

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Posted 23 July 2013 - 07:16 AM

What a load of rubbish. How can Hull FC be a 2 when they sign all Cas academy products and Cas only get a 3? Seems to be too much emphasis on facilities than on coaching.

#4 SE4Wire

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Posted 23 July 2013 - 07:59 AM

From our point of view it's nice to read that Wire isn't far off these "outstanding" academies.

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Posted 23 July 2013 - 08:03 AM

What a load of rubbish. How can Hull FC be a 2 when they sign all Cas academy products and Cas only get a 3? Seems to be too much Lemphasis on facilities than on coaching.

Ratings based on now rather than the period the players you are thinking of went through academy
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#6 JohnM

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Posted 23 July 2013 - 09:18 AM

What a load of rubbish. How can Hull FC be a 2 when they sign all Cas academy products and Cas only get a 3? Seems to be too much emphasis on facilities than on coaching.

 

How do you conclude thet when the document states

 

1. Achievements of the system
– the improvements in the performance of players and coaches over a prolonged period. 
 
2. Quality of Leadership and Management
– the strategy and vision of the Academy and progress made
 
3. How well Academies meet the needs of players
- the welfare, education and safeguarding that is in place 
 
4. The Delivery of the Player Development system
- The approaches used to optimise the development of players through to your First Grade and England. 


#7 Ant

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Posted 23 July 2013 - 09:37 AM

Unsurprisingly the clubs at the top longest are best

While those lower down arent.



#8 Dave T

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Posted 23 July 2013 - 09:39 AM

From our point of view it's nice to read that Wire isn't far off these "outstanding" academies.

Yes - for a 2 rating it appears to be a very strong rating, with the word outstanding used.

 

It would appear we have much of the infrastructure in place, but it could easily be another 10 years before we start to see a conveyor belt like the 3 top rated clubs produce.

 

Whilst we do have a good nucleus of home-grown players, it is still a surprise when one turns out to be good enough for SL, whereas it really shouldn;t be.



#9 Bomb Jack

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Posted 23 July 2013 - 09:44 AM

It's nice to see my Club Widnes rated higher than at least 6 established Super League Clubs.


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#10 foozler

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Posted 23 July 2013 - 10:06 AM

How are the regional academies funded and managed? What are the pathways for talent from these academies

 

And is there scope to have a regional academy in the South East/ Greater London?



#11 Ackroman

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Posted 23 July 2013 - 10:19 AM

Fantastic idea to rate academies. I coach at a football club under FA charter status and we are audited every 3 years. It gives everyone a clear understanding of what the requirement is for developing young players regardless of where the club plays it's football.

One thing I would say is that the facilities and the qualifications of the coaches is more important to the FA than the skill and behaviour of the kids which is a huge frustration to me.

#12 LordCharles

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Posted 23 July 2013 - 10:20 AM

How are the regional academies funded and managed? What are the pathways for talent from these academies

 

And is there scope to have a regional academy in the South East/ Greater London?

 

Now that my friend.........is a question!!!



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Posted 23 July 2013 - 10:27 AM

Couple of posts edited/removed to avoid this thread turning into yet another willy-waggling argument over licensing & P/R.

 

There's a thread for all that stuff here.

 

Stay on topic, thanks.


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#14 South Wakefield Sharks

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 07:55 AM

Really interesting review by the RFL. Not many surprises in there, but it does reflect the priorities of the different clubs. Really good to see Widnes as 2. You'd think that if they can keep their nerve and maintain funding then it could pay back big time for them.

 

Interesting re-reading Neil Hudgell's comments (from April) in League Express this week about Hull KR's inability to compete with Wigan. You wonder how much better off his side might be if they'd invested a bit more  money in their academy structure over the past few years, rather than on first grade salaries.

 

It's about taking a long-term view and investing for the future, but clearly too many clubs are still focused on the short-term.



#15 The Future is League

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 02:04 PM

Unsurprisingly the clubs at the top longest are best

While those lower down arent.

Something the lower down clubs need to realise. These lower down clubs should start thinking long term. The saying go's  "Short term pain for long term gain"



#16 Ant

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 03:32 PM

Something the lower down clubs need to realise. These lower down clubs should start thinking long term. The saying go's "Short term pain for long term gain"


Unfortunately any thinking on that line has been torpedoed well and truly.

#17 Northern Sol

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 03:48 PM

Surprisingly strong results from the Midlands and North East regional academies despite no SL side in those areas. We're always being told about the need for a SL side.



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Posted 07 August 2013 - 04:28 PM

Surprisingly strong results from the Midlands and North East regional academies despite no SL side in those areas. We're always being told about the need for a SL side.

 

It's not necessary to have an SL side to run an Academy.

 

However generating widespread interest in RL in the Midlands would be greatly increased if there was a side in SL, and there would be a natural progression to full time professionalism (locally), hence you would probably attract a larger and better playing pool. The Midlands is a massive area, and from the North Midlands you can link up with the northern academies if you are good enough. But would you be seen?

 

If this is aimed at the Broncos, there could be an argument that the RFL could run the development show down there, but would the players that have made SL through the Broncos really take the risk of moving up North? I doubt it in most cases.


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#19 Northern Sol

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 05:59 PM

It's not necessary to have an SL side to run an Academy.

 

However generating widespread interest in RL in the Midlands would be greatly increased if there was a side in SL, and there would be a natural progression to full time professionalism (locally), hence you would probably attract a larger and better playing pool. The Midlands is a massive area, and from the North Midlands you can link up with the northern academies if you are good enough. But would you be seen?

 

If this is aimed at the Broncos, there could be an argument that the RFL could run the development show down there, but would the players that have made SL through the Broncos really take the risk of moving up North? I doubt it in most cases.

Some people have argued ad naseum that you need to have a local SL side for the best young athletes to take the game seriously. This proves it to be a load of nonsense.

 

Now I daresay a Midlands SL side would improve matters but in the meantime things seem to be going rather well. Well done to all concerned.



#20 tim2

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 07:13 PM

Some people have argued ad naseum that you need to have a local SL side for the best young athletes to take the game seriously. This proves it to be a load of nonsense.

 

Now I daresay a Midlands SL side would improve matters but in the meantime things seem to be going rather well. Well done to all concerned.

 

I guess we'll find out when they actually play a game. Unless the whole system changes before then, of course.


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