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#101 Futtocks

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 02:00 PM

Its a very British thing to be disparaging of success as seen on this thread. You may not like the individual concerned or their work, but many people cited on here (unfairly IMO) are very talented else they wouldn't be doing what they are doing.

I don't know about narrowing it down to 'British'; posting disparaging comments about successful people seems to be symptomatic of the internet in general.

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#102 Northern Sol

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 02:11 PM

Surprised that no-ones mentioned the appalling Miranda Hart yet. Maybe I'm missing something, but her show appears to be humourless dross in which every 'gag' is based on the fact that she's tall. Someone told me a while back that she's actually a member of the aristocracy and something like 17th in line to the throne, which would explain how she's managed to gain access to our television schedules despite having no talent.

I don't find her funny but clearly lots of people do. A poor example of "talentless". I'd say that a posh background actually handicaps you in comedy.



#103 l'angelo mysterioso

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 04:57 PM

I don't find her funny but clearly lots of people do. A poor example of "talentless". I'd say that a posh background actually handicaps you in comedy.

I don't think it does
Marcus brigstocke
Alexander Armstrong
Miranda hart herself
Spring immediately to mind


It's just the route they take to fame that's different: the footlights, comedy clubs and so on

In fact it could be that working class comedians are becoming fewer with the demise of working men's clubs although there are still plenty of comedians from working class backgrounds

Edited by l'angelo mysterioso, 02 August 2013 - 05:00 PM.

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#104 Severus

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 05:55 PM

I don't think it does
Marcus brigstocke
Alexander Armstrong
Miranda hart herself
Spring immediately to mind


It's just the route they take to fame that's different: the footlights, comedy clubs and so on

In fact it could be that working class comedians are becoming fewer with the demise of working men's clubs although there are still plenty of comedians from working class backgrounds


Stephen Fry
Hugh Laurie
Essentially the Cambridge Footlights alumni.
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#105 Northern Sol

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 06:27 PM

I don't think it does
Marcus brigstocke
Alexander Armstrong
Miranda hart herself
Spring immediately to mind


It's just the route they take to fame that's different: the footlights, comedy clubs and so on

In fact it could be that working class comedians are becoming fewer with the demise of working men's clubs although there are still plenty of comedians from working class backgrounds

A grand total of three.



#106 Northern Sol

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 06:32 PM

Stephen Fry
Hugh Laurie
Essentially the Cambridge Footlights alumni.

Different generation.

 

Comedy took a different direction in the 80s and its never really swung back. It went from satyrising the powerful, which posh lads tended to be very good at (as they were closer to the people they satyrised), to alternative "observational comedy". I don't think you endear yourself to an audience by telling them about anecdotes from your preparatory school.


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#107 Wolford6

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 06:34 PM

Jack Whitehouse

Michael McIntyre

 

 

Both posh.

For me; one's funny, one isn't.


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Posted 02 August 2013 - 06:38 PM

Rhod Gilbert.

 

Welsh and working class.

 

Laugh? I thought I'd never start.

 

Endlessly whining tw@


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#109 Larry the Leit

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 06:51 PM

Its a very British thing to be disparaging of success as seen on this thread. You may not like the individual concerned or their work, but many people cited on here (unfairly IMO) are very talented else they wouldn't be doing what they are doing. 

 

I actually think people have been pretty fair.  There have been challenges and reasons given, especially when it appears it's just a dislike rather than a clear cut lack of talent.

 

Can anyone explain why Christine Hamilton has a licence fee funded gig on BBC1?


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#110 Larry the Leit

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 06:52 PM

Rhod Gilbert.

 

Welsh and working class.

 

Laugh? I thought I'd never start.

 

Endlessly whining tw@

 

I like him.  His show on radio Wales is generally pretty good too.  Comes over as a likeable happy go lucky lad, who recognises how lucky he's been.


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#111 l'angelo mysterioso

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 07:27 PM

A grand total of three.

not at all

they were just ones that sprang to mind immediately


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#112 l'angelo mysterioso

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 07:29 PM

Different generation.

 

Comedy took a different direction in the 80s and its never really swung back. It went from satyrising the powerful, which posh lads tended to be very good at (as they were closer to the people they satyrised), to alternative "observational comedy". I don't think you endear yourself to an audience by telling them about anecdotes from your preparatory school.

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mitchell and webb


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#113 Northern Sol

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 07:33 PM

I don't think I said it's impossible to be posh and successful in comedy just that it is a disadvantage rather than an advantage.



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Posted 03 August 2013 - 07:29 AM

[quote name="Northern Sol" post="2759906" timestamp="1375472036"]

I don't think I said it's impossible to be posh and successful in comedy just that it is a disadvantage rather than an advantage.[/quote
How?



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#115 Severus

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Posted 03 August 2013 - 08:13 AM

[quote name="l'angelo mysterioso" post="2760161" timestamp="1375514960"]

[quote name="Northern Sol" post="2759906" timestamp="1375472036"]

I don't think I said it's impossible to be posh and successful in comedy just that it is a disadvantage rather than an advantage.[/quote
How?



Al Murray[/quote]

Al Murray went to Oxbridge but I don't think he's that posh, probably middle class IMO.
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#116 Ackroman

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Posted 03 August 2013 - 08:32 AM

I think you should re-read Max's comments. He was talking about TV presenters and I'd say he was right on the money. Women TV presenters are usually talentless but pretty whereas their male counterparts are generally less good looking but have something about them.
 
Now you've taken that to be a statement about "Slebs" in general. I'm not sure why. I doubt that anyone thinks that female singers are about as talented as their male equivalents for instance.


Are you having a laugh re the last paragraph? Read the thread title before wading in with your size 10's.

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Posted 03 August 2013 - 10:41 AM

Are you having a laugh re the last paragraph? Read the thread title before wading in with your size 10's.

 

Are you having a laugh re the last paragraph? Read the thread title before wading in with your size 10's.

You weren't replying to the thread title, you were replying to Max's post. Perhaps you could do him the courtesy of reading it.



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Posted 03 August 2013 - 11:21 AM

ame="l'angelo mysterioso" post="2760161" timestamp="1375514960"]

Al Murray went to Oxbridge but I don't think he's that posh, probably middle class IMO.


I reckon, after reading his Wikipedia entry, Al Murray is most definitely posh.

David Mitchell, on the other hand, sounds posh but isn't really.

I think in the 80's being posh was a hindrance in such a way that it meant you weren't cool or edgy (Richard Herring's often retold anecdote about his first trip to Edinburgh with the Footlights is one example) but I don't think that these days it matters at all. In fact I reckon it helps get the foot in the door with regards to TV work.

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Posted 03 August 2013 - 12:34 PM

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Al Murray went to Oxbridge but I don't think he's that posh, probably middle class IMO.

father a senior army officer and he was educated privately

 

I'm not referencing actual posh necessarily but non workin g class since this addresses NS's point


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#120 Li0nhead

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Posted 03 August 2013 - 01:28 PM

That tallentless smug sharky used car sales man type bloke who keeps popping up on BBC conman shows....Googles.....

Dom Littlewood, thats the guy.

How does he keep getting them gigs?

 

Quite surprised nobody has mention a couple of long standing Rugby League presenters in this thread. 

 

Just about any presenter on the find a property type shows. 






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