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#1 Cockney4league

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 11:16 AM

Was just reading up on Darren Lockyer and it says he played this position. What position is a five-eighth and why do the Aussies call it that?



#2 Griff

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 11:19 AM

Yeah - Australians are into vulgar fractions for some reason. It's a standoff. Halfway between a half and a three quarter.

Sometimes they have a first five-eighth and a second five-eighth. I'm not sure why the second five eighth never became an eleven sixteenth.

But that's Aussies for you - full of inconsistencies.

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 11:20 AM

The position is known to English-speakers ;) as Stand-off.

 

Five-eighth is a of an bit old-fashioned term, just as Wingers were referred to as 'Wing three-quarters' and likewise for Centres. The Aussies sometimes also refer to the Hooker as a 'Rake'.


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#4 Cockney4league

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 11:21 AM

Thank you very helpful. 



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Posted 02 August 2013 - 11:22 AM

And a loose forward is a lock - instead of a three-eighth. Baffling.
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Posted 02 August 2013 - 11:32 AM

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#7 Northern Sol

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 02:00 PM

The term comes from New Zealand rugby before the great schism. The 5/8th name supposedly came from the fact that their half-backs stood slightly further back.

 

Another explanation is that the stand-off was the first of five backs that the ball could be given to by the scrum half hence "first five". (The inside centre being the "second five").



#8 Northern Sol

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 02:01 PM

And a loose forward is a lock - instead of a three-eighth. Baffling.

Loose forwards didn't have to bind and could break away from the scrum early as opposed to the "tight 5" (props, locks and hookers) who had to stay bound.



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Posted 02 August 2013 - 02:18 PM

Loose forwards didn't have to bind and could break away from the scrum early as opposed to the "tight 5" (props, locks and hookers) who had to stay bound.


In the UK. But a lock (or three eighth, as I prefer to call him) is a loose forward in Australia, not a second rower.

A lock in the UK is not a term I recognize as RL. It's a Union word.
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#10 Northern Sol

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 03:41 PM

In the UK. But a lock (or three eighth, as I prefer to call him) is a loose forward in Australia, not a second rower.

A lock in the UK is not a term I recognize as RL. It's a Union word.

No, but it was in use before the "great schism" so it's part of the cultural heritage of rugby league.