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#121 fieldofclothofgold

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 07:30 PM

It may have passed all safety checks, I just think it is out-dated, not great to view from (have you stood on the western terrace when it's full and tried to get a good view) and lacks modern facilities.

And I'm not suggesting they take advise from anyone, just offering an opinion. My opinion is its a dump and I think if Headingly was upgraded to a modern facility there crowds would increase. But the ground generates a good atmosphere, but I think that's the fans!

Dump is going beyond the pail.I have stood at grounds where there are terraces and then I've stood at Odsal when it was shale cinders and a few railway sleepers and no decent view anywhere.Now that is what is rightly called a dump! Leeds plans to redevelope the ground are ongoing all being financed by the club,the best run club in SL.The CEO will not plunge the club in unmanageable debt.
but you and I weve been through that and this is not our fate.
So let us so let us not talk falsely now.
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#122 Odsal Outlaw

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 07:56 PM

Dump is going beyond the pail.I have stood at grounds where there are terraces and then I've stood at Odsal when it was shale cinders and a few railway sleepers and no decent view anywhere.Now that is what is rightly called a dump! Leeds plans to redevelope the ground are ongoing all being financed by the club,the best run club in SL.The CEO will not plunge the club in unmanageable debt.

It's great their funding ground developments themselves and not getting into debt. Not criticising any of that! Agree also that dump is maybe harsh. 'Tired, dated and lacking modern facilities' would be fairer. We do struggle with decent grounds on our side of the hills.

And Odsal has a great view from all areas!

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#123 fieldofclothofgold

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 08:56 PM

It's great their funding ground developments themselves and not getting into debt. Not criticising any of that! Agree also that dump is maybe harsh. 'Tired, dated and lacking modern facilities' would be fairer. We do struggle with decent grounds on our side of the hills.

And Odsal has a great view from all areas!

Thankyou for that but not so many years ago Odsal was very dangerous no terracing apart from a few railway sleepers and it was an awful view when it held big crowds.you couldn't see at the front and neither could see if you you were situated near the stand that has now been pulled down,but now you need to pray for a dry day
but you and I weve been through that and this is not our fate.
So let us so let us not talk falsely now.
The hour is getting late
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#124 The Art of Hand and Foot

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 09:43 PM

You know, many of you are calling certain grounds dumps but I would give anything to have our dump, at Watersheddings, back. Compared to what we have now it was the Bernabao!!! So think yourself lucky.

#125 Bartholemew Smythe

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 11:52 PM

From when I started watching RL, Ive seen the following grounds disappear:
 
Borough Park
Athletic Grounds
Craven Park
Crown Flatt
Clarence Street
Station Road
Fartown
Tattersfield
Mclaran Field
Naughton Park
Watersheddings
Thrum Hall
Central Park
Boulevard
Wilderspool
Hilton Park
Knowsley Road
The Willows
 
In fact, there are only 10 clubs still playing at the same ground they were around the early 80s......
 
Bradford
Leeds
Castleford
Wakefield
Featherstone
Batley
Keighley
Workington
Barrow
Whitehaven

What about Widnes?
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#126 keighley

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Posted 15 August 2013 - 12:31 AM

You know, many of you are calling certain grounds dumps but I would give anything to have our dump, at Watersheddings, back. Compared to what we have now it was the Bernabao!!! So think yourself lucky.

 

If Real Oldham get promotion and I hope you do, the club might have to take some action on  the development plans they have for Whitebank or face the wrath of the minimum standards people.

 

The Racecourse ground home of your likely fellow promotees is like Wembley compared to Whitebank and would draw unfavourable comparisons.



#127 Larry the Leit

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Posted 15 August 2013 - 05:04 AM

Like I said most Leeds fans are very good at estimating Headingley Crowds and your suggestion seems quite veiled.


You're not expecting any Leeds fans to pipe up are you? Thy can only make noise when led by a trumpeter.

Edited by Larry the Leit, 15 August 2013 - 07:03 AM.


#128 Odsal Outlaw

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Posted 15 August 2013 - 06:08 AM

Thankyou for that but not so many years ago Odsal was very dangerous no terracing apart from a few railway sleepers and it was an awful view when it held big crowds.you couldn't see at the front and neither could see if you you were situated near the stand that has now been pulled down,but now you need to pray for a dry day


The railway sleepers were a long time ago! I've only ever seen them in pictures! As for the dry day ..... a bit like the western terrace! Although you can always go in our very modern seated stand that is accommodating to both home and away fans!!!

Both Odsal and Headingly need a bit if an upgrade to be fair. Although think a roof over the main terrace at Odsal would be a great start.
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#129 Mumby Magic

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Posted 15 August 2013 - 06:12 AM

What about Widnes?

Still in same ground.


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#130 goldcoaster

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Posted 15 August 2013 - 06:29 AM

While I can see benefit in owning your own stadium, if you use it for other things regularly (I.e. restaurant, functions, gym etc.) which can be hard to do if your stadium is in a retail park, like many are now (so not in centre of town).

If you can't use it for other things, you're stuck paying for a building that is used one day a week, for 13 weeks a year. The other 352 days a year it sits dormant. You then have upkeep costs and staff costs (having to constantly recruit and train match day staff when you can only offer them 13 days work a year=large turnover).

I think most clubs are probably better-off getting a good lease on a modern stadia. That's what most NRL clubs do. Only the Sharks own their own ground, and they are the worst club financially.
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#131 JohnM

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Posted 15 August 2013 - 08:14 AM

That also means that your capital is not tied up in an under utilised asset that needs regular maintenance expenditure. That is why sale-and-leaseback is always worth examining.



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Posted 15 August 2013 - 11:11 AM

Knowsley Road was another stadium which came over well on TV even having 8000 at the games.



#133 fieldofclothofgold

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Posted 15 August 2013 - 11:50 AM

You're not expecting any Leeds fans to pipe up are you? Thy can only make noise when led by a trumpeter.

Have you noticed I've not resorted to this kind of comment at all.I have been attending Headingley for many many yeas and I can estimate quite acqurately the crowd for the night
but you and I weve been through that and this is not our fate.
So let us so let us not talk falsely now.
The hour is getting late
FROM 2004,TO DO WHAT THIS CLUB HAS DONE,IF THATS NOT GREATNESSTHEN i DONT KNOW WHAT IS.

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#134 Larry the Leit

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Posted 15 August 2013 - 06:43 PM

Have you noticed I've not resorted to this kind of comment at all.I have been attending Headingley for many many yeas and I can estimate quite acqurately the crowd for the night


Well done you. Have you actually shared you estimate?

#135 fieldofclothofgold

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Posted 16 August 2013 - 12:19 AM

Well done you. Have you actually shared you estimate?

Like I told you earlier I wasn't at the game
but you and I weve been through that and this is not our fate.
So let us so let us not talk falsely now.
The hour is getting late
FROM 2004,TO DO WHAT THIS CLUB HAS DONE,IF THATS NOT GREATNESSTHEN i DONT KNOW WHAT IS.

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#136 Larry the Leit

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Posted 16 August 2013 - 04:13 AM

Like I told you earlier I wasn't at the game


Great contribution.

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Posted 16 August 2013 - 10:09 AM

Great contribution.

I said I wasn't at the game,most mature Leeds fans can estimate quite accurately the attendance including me.Now if you are questioning why I wasn't there well. I was there earlier the season and also in August because I want to see the Core group win at Wembley,so it would have been bit pricy to come for playoffs and GF
but you and I weve been through that and this is not our fate.
So let us so let us not talk falsely now.
The hour is getting late
FROM 2004,TO DO WHAT THIS CLUB HAS DONE,IF THATS NOT GREATNESSTHEN i DONT KNOW WHAT IS.

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#138 audois

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 11:30 AM

Been reported that the NZ Warriors will play three games in 2014 at Eden Park. They've played I think three times over last few years always drawing 30,000 plus.There's talk that the city council in Auckland want them to relocate permantly and share it with the Blues Top 16 outfit as they dont appear want to up-grade Mount Smart.
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#139 Mushy

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 01:38 PM

A bit of a digression but...

A fantastic venue for League will be the converted London Olympic Stadium. It will have a lower tier for about 22,000 fans right up against the touchlines (the stands roll back over the track when athletics is in town) with the upper tiers available as and when required to take the capacity to around 55,000 capacity.

Shame the rahs are getting in there for 2015 but nothing to stop us using it afterwards. A good home for the London NRL franchise?!?

#140 Andrew Vause

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 07:19 PM

From when I started watching RL, Ive seen the following grounds disappear:
 
Borough Park
Athletic Grounds
Craven Park
Crown Flatt
Clarence Street
Station Road
Fartown
Tattersfield
Mclaran Field
Naughton Park
Watersheddings
Thrum Hall
Central Park
Boulevard
Wilderspool
Hilton Park
Knowsley Road
The Willows
 
In fact, there are only 10 clubs still playing at the same ground they were around the early 80s......
 
Bradford
Leeds
Castleford
Wakefield
Featherstone
Batley
Keighley
Workington
Barrow
Whitehaven


You could probably add Alt Park, Guildford Park, Ninian Park, Scarborough, Any of Sheffield's early offerings, Nottingham, Mansfield, Craven Cottage( still used for Football I know)




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