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Lets make the criminal justice system do its job


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#1 l'angelo mysterioso

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Posted 10 August 2013 - 05:42 PM

I've learned a lot from the rational, considered, profound thoughts of those in favour of capital punishment and I'm deeply indebted to them and have be persuaded by their rhetoric
But what about the rest of the criminal justice system?
Criminals reoffend, receive a slap on the wrist, are jet off by do gooders and the ordinary tax payer pays through the nose for a prison system that is no more than a chain of holiday camps.
Here's how it should be sorted in a way that is cheap, brings proper justice, And prevents reoffending

1 thieves should have both hands chopped off . Yes I know it sounds a bit Muslim but so is curry and we all like a vindaloo. The culprits should in the name of clemency be allowed to keep their hands in their freezer for a set time in the event of a successful appeal
2 rapists: well you can guess can't you, all I'll say is it should be done without anaesthetic
3 manslaughter: people do this when they are in a high emotional state, so a compulsory lobotomy should deal with that, they'll be like pussycsts for the rest of their lives
4 death penalty for all murders whether its a gangland shooting it an abused wife who can't take it any more or whatever: murder is murder.
5 motoring offences: the government should stop persecuting the poor motorist

There prisons emptied no repeat offending and satisfaction guaranteed

Edit: and dirt cheap as well

Edited by l'angelo mysterioso, 10 August 2013 - 05:43 PM.

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#2 tim2

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Posted 10 August 2013 - 06:28 PM

You are the Daily Mail in human form and I claim my £5 ;)


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#3 Methven Hornet

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Posted 10 August 2013 - 06:30 PM

No! Inconsiderate driving costs lives, and these ###### should be disembowelled for even the slightest infraction.

That would empty the roads of nutters!


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#4 Northern Sol

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Posted 10 August 2013 - 06:58 PM

I may be a compulsive pedant but curry is not "Muslim".



#5 Johnoco

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Posted 10 August 2013 - 07:25 PM

The death penalty has never been compulsory for murder so why introduce it now? As for the rest, its a victory for common sense.

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#6 Methven Hornet

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Posted 10 August 2013 - 08:36 PM

Off with their 'eads!


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#7 l'angelo mysterioso

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Posted 10 August 2013 - 09:25 PM

I may be a compulsive pedant but curry is not "Muslim".

It's muslim enough
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#8 l'angelo mysterioso

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Posted 10 August 2013 - 09:27 PM

The death penalty has never been compulsory for murder so why introduce it now? As for the rest, its a victory for common sense.

Because like you so eloquently and convincingly said on another thread it means they can do it again
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Posted 10 August 2013 - 09:35 PM

Because like you so eloquently and convincingly said on another thread it means they can do it again

Some murderers do get released and go on to kill innocent people. But we have established that these innocent people are just unlucky. Its also the reason you started this thread to ridicule people who think they are equally innocent victims and not less important than 'potential' innocent people.

Edited by Johnoco, 10 August 2013 - 09:39 PM.

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No cause for so much hatred, I'm just a different man

Pull off that cover, I will too, and learn to understand

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#10 Northern Sol

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Posted 10 August 2013 - 11:49 PM

It's muslim enough

It's Hindu enough for Hindus, Sikh enough for Sikhs, Buddhist enough for Buddhists etc.



#11 l'angelo mysterioso

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Posted 10 August 2013 - 11:50 PM

Some murderers do get released and go on to kill innocent people. But we have established that these innocent people are just unlucky. Its also the reason you started this thread to ridicule people who think they are equally innocent victims and not less important than 'potential' innocent people.

Do you agree that in the interest of the protection of potential innocent victims and in the light of the number was it dozens and/or hundreds that you quoted that all murderers should be executed. I thought you were in favour if this judging by your comments in another thread and if course there's money to be saved which should please mr/mrs/ breakout

Using the same logic: by chopping off the hands if thieves further thefts are obviated, redress is obtained and there is the deterrent effect as well as reducing the prison population
Same with lobotomising those who commit manslaughter and so on

As for ridiculing people: check your own performance and that if others of your mindset on the 'other' thread

Nobody is making you get involved in this thread
And as for establishing that murder victims are just unlucky it's the first I've heard. Who is this we you speak of.
I'm currently working up a couple of theories
First what firm rexecutions should take and whether they should be public...along with a few side benefits which I'd be happy to share with you later

Also and I'll run this up the flag pole and see how it flutters : public floggings for various offences. Your thoughts as ever very much appreciated and anticipated as well of course those of a like mind to you

Edited by l'angelo mysterioso, 10 August 2013 - 11:57 PM.

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#12 l'angelo mysterioso

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Posted 10 August 2013 - 11:58 PM

It's Hindu enough for Hindus, Sikh enough for Sikhs, Buddhist enough for Buddhists etc.


Nah mate
They won't have that in bradford
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#13 Johnoco

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Posted 11 August 2013 - 05:16 AM

Do you agree that in the interest of the protection of potential innocent victims and in the light of the number was it dozens and/or hundreds that you quoted that all murderers should be executed. I thought you were in favour if this judging by your comments in another thread and if course there's money to be saved which should please mr/mrs/ breakout

Using the same logic: by chopping off the hands if thieves further thefts are obviated, redress is obtained and there is the deterrent effect as well as reducing the prison population
Same with lobotomising those who commit manslaughter and so on

As for ridiculing people: check your own performance and that if others of your mindset on the 'other' thread

Nobody is making you get involved in this thread
And as for establishing that murder victims are just unlucky it's the first I've heard. Who is this we you speak of.
I'm currently working up a couple of theories
First what firm rexecutions should take and whether they should be public...along with a few side benefits which I'd be happy to share with you later

Also and I'll run this up the flag pole and see how it flutters : public floggings for various offences. Your thoughts as ever very much appreciated and anticipated as well of course those of a like mind to you

Ludicrous. If you think thieving or other such crime is the equal of murder and warrants equal serious treatment, then I think you are on a wind up.

You are ridiculing people who disagree with you by starting this thread implying that all the above drivel is logically what I might think. Pretty pathetic really and indicative of an intolerant mindset.

I don't really want the death penalty. But I think it could be an option possibly in certain cases for some cases....possibly but not an automatic option. You however start mentioning the chance of 'innocent people getting killed' whilst dismissing the many ones killed by repeat murderers, in fact it appears to be something of a joke and a reason to parody peoples views.
I have been disagreeing with people not ridiculing anyone unlike you.

Edited by Johnoco, 11 August 2013 - 05:27 AM.

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No cause for so much hatred, I'm just a different man

Pull off that cover, I will too, and learn to understand

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#14 Larry the Leit

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Posted 11 August 2013 - 07:07 AM

I'd like to see community service introduced for anyone that doesn't ridicule traffic wardens.

#15 l'angelo mysterioso

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Posted 11 August 2013 - 07:29 AM

Ludicrous. If you think thieving or other such crime is the equal of murder and warrants equal serious treatment, then I think you are on a wind up.

You are ridiculing people who disagree with you by starting this thread implying that all the above drivel is logically what I might think. Pretty pathetic really and indicative of an intolerant mindset.

I don't really want the death penalty. But I think it could be an option possibly in certain cases for some cases....possibly but not an automatic option. You however start mentioning the chance of 'innocent people getting killed' whilst dismissing the many ones killed by repeat murderers, in fact it appears to be something of a joke and a reason to parody peoples views.
I have been disagreeing with people not ridiculing anyone unlike you.

Thieving doesn't warrant equally serious treatment as murder, where have I said that? The proposed punishment is completely different
By having the death penalty for all murders the chance of repeat offending is avoided completely. You had a lot to say about this on the other thread would you like me to show you? It is repeat murders thst i am referring to slong with other thingd And of course this and the other thread isn't just about you.
I repeatedly asked people to respect each others views on the other thread and would ask you and others to do so on this one
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#16 Johnoco

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Posted 11 August 2013 - 08:03 AM

You are trying to make out that because I think in certain circumstances the death penalty could apply, I automatically follow a certain thinking about other areas of the law. So much for this respect you mention.
The argument about released murderers came about because of the concern about innocent people being killed in error. But this happens all the time to people by state decisions. So why are they not worth getting het up about.

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No cause for so much hatred, I'm just a different man

Pull off that cover, I will too, and learn to understand

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#17 l'angelo mysterioso

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Posted 11 August 2013 - 08:12 AM

You are trying to make out that because I think in certain circumstances the death penalty could apply, I automatically follow a certain thinking about other areas of the law. So much for this respect you mention.
The argument about released murderers came about because of the concern about innocent people being killed in error. But this happens all the time to people by state decisions. So why are they not worth getting het up about.

I'm not making out that you think anything you think what you think
Again this is not about you
If you disagree with these proposals then say so and give reasons why: that's kind of the point.
If you have nothing to say or you are uncomfortable then do what the moderators repeatedly suggest
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Posted 11 August 2013 - 09:46 AM

I may be a compulsive pedant but curry is not "Muslim".

 

 

stop making me agree with you  :tongue:


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#19 l'angelo mysterioso

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Posted 11 August 2013 - 09:57 AM

stop making me agree with you :tongue:

Tell that to the lads at the EDL they know what they're talking about
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Posted 11 August 2013 - 10:29 AM

I'd like to see community service introduced for anyone that doesn't ridicule traffic wardens.

 

Traffic wardens are the thin yellow line that stands between us and a breakdown of scoiety.


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