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#161 Marauder

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 09:22 PM

But surely that's pre Super League so the sport as a whole was playing during the winter

The facts are the game under a unfunded BARLA and played in a traditional season along side union and soccer was as big as it is now at open age, in fact since the development officers have been withdrawn the whole development except in the midlands seems to have fallen apart at the seams, I could be wrong but it does look like it was the development officers who where acting as the chief chef and bottle washer at some of the clubs.


Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits.



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#162 Pottsy

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 09:29 PM

The facts are the game under a unfunded BARLA and played in a traditional season along side union and soccer was as big as it is now at open age, in fact since the development officers have been withdrawn the whole development except in the midlands seems to have fallen apart at the seams, I could be wrong but it does look like it was the development officers who where acting as the chief chef and bottle washer at some of the clubs.


I think you're well wide of the mark there, on the whole.

#163 Marauder

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 09:47 PM

I think you're well wide of the mark there, on the whole.

I can only go on what guys have been saying on here.


Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits.



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#164 Stew R

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 10:10 PM

The facts are the game under a unfunded BARLA and played in a traditional season along side union and soccer was as big as it is now at open age, in fact since the development officers have been withdrawn the whole development except in the midlands seems to have fallen apart at the seams, I could be wrong but it does look like it was the development officers who where acting as the chief chef and bottle washer at some of the clubs.

That's around 20 years ago. The sporting landscape had changed massively since then. Rugby union has turned professional. The national lottery now provides huge amounts of funding. The Premier League has changed the face of football forever.
Using stats from that time is ignoring these and many other socio-economic as well as sporting influences.
We need to work with RLs current influences not those of a playing generation ago.

It made me think of these lines from Baz Luhrmann

Be careful whose advice you buy, but, be patient with those who
supply it. Advice is a form of nostalgia, dispensing it is a way of
fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the
ugly parts and recycling it for more than it’s worth.

But trust me on the sunscreen…

Edited by Stew R, 26 August 2013 - 10:20 PM.

"Perfection is not attainable. But if we chase perfection, we can catch excellence."

"The quality of a person's life is in direct proportion to their commitment to excellence, regardless of their chosen field of endeavor."

#165 Marauder

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 10:37 PM

That's around 20 years ago. The sporting landscape had changed massively since then. Rugby union has turned professional. The national lottery now provides huge amounts of funding. The Premier League has changed the face of football forever.
Using stats from that time is ignoring these and many other socio-economic as well as sporting influences.
We need to work with RLs current influences not those of a playing generation ago.

It made me think of these lines from Baz Luhrmann

Be careful whose advice you buy, but, be patient with those who
supply it. Advice is a form of nostalgia, dispensing it is a way of
fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the
ugly parts and recycling it for more than it’s worth.

But trust me on the sunscreen…

We have to distrust each other. It is our only defence against betrayal.

Tennessee Williams

 

Or is betrayal the same as collateral damage?


Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits.



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#166 Gar

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 07:01 AM

We have to distrust each other. It is our only defence against betrayal.
Tennessee Williams

Or is betrayal the same as collateral damage?

logic like this goes a long way towards explaining the reasons why the game is struggling to move on. Thankfully, numbers holding views such as these are in a rapidly diminishing group. Get a grip and get a life.

Edited by Gar, 27 August 2013 - 07:02 AM.


#167 TaxiEgg

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 07:38 AM

Collataral Damage was the terms of reference used by David Gent hence Marauders quote .
And you are off the pace if you seriously think tMarauder holds a minority view .
The league this thread is supposed to be about is an example of the Collataral damage .

#168 Gar

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 08:03 AM

I'm fully aware of the quote. Do me a favour and rank the following groups in order of importance to the game of rugby league going forward.

Juniors / youth
Professionals
Elite Amateurs
Amateurs

#169 Marauder

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 08:20 AM

logic like this goes a long way towards explaining the reasons why the game is struggling to move on. Thankfully, numbers holding views such as these are in a rapidly diminishing group. Get a grip and get a life.

I think you will find the numbers are actually growing as the amateur population wakes up to what and where they are being lead, what other reasons do you think the RFL have to try and force the operational rules through so quickly.

I'm fully aware of the quote. Do me a favour and rank the following groups in order of importance to the game of rugby league going forward.

Juniors / youth
Professionals
Elite Amateurs
Amateurs

chicken and egg springs to mind and it looks like you've made a list that you expect us to agree on.

 

I'm attending a meeting tonight Gar, and one tomorrow night Gar, what are you going to do today to make you feel proud.


Edited by Marauder, 27 August 2013 - 08:27 AM.

Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits.



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#170 TaxiEgg

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 08:31 AM

I'm fully aware of the quote. Do me a favour and rank the following groups in order of importance to the game of rugby league going forward.

Juniors / youth
Professionals
Elite Amateurs
Amateurs

Juniors / Youth

Amatuers

Elite Amatuers

Professionals

 

You see that,s how to answer a question , so now what is it your looking for ?


Edited by TaxiEgg, 27 August 2013 - 08:32 AM.


#171 Gar

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 08:36 AM

Humour me....Mauruder

If my original list was a list that people did agree on and lets assume for arguments sake it was can you answer the following:-

( 1 ) If there was / had to be some collateral damage which group do you think it would be least damaging to the game as a whole for it to occur in?

( 2 ) Which group has benefited most from the switch to summer rugby?

If the truth be known I'd bet my mortgage I put more hours in last week and will put more hours in this week and every week thereafter but this isn't about massaging ego's.

Edited by Gar, 27 August 2013 - 08:42 AM.


#172 Gar

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 08:39 AM

Interesting Taxi

Edited by Gar, 27 August 2013 - 08:40 AM.


#173 Marauder

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 08:52 AM

Humour me....Mauruder

If my original list was a list that people did agree on and lets assume for arguments sake it was can you answer the following:-

( 1 ) If there was / had to be some collateral damage which group do you think it would be least damaging to the game as a whole for it to occur in?

( 2 ) Which group has benefited most from the switch to summer rugby?

If the truth be known I'd bet my mortgage I put more hours in last week and will put more hours in this week and every week thereafter but this isn't about massaging ego's.

1/ professionals (only area that's in the red

2/ Super league clubs

 

Is that hours with or without pay?


Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits.



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#174 TaxiEgg

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 10:29 AM

So interesting that you still can't answer a direct question ?

#175 Gar

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 12:14 PM

Just interested in what everybody's views are.

#176 Marauder

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 12:38 PM

Just interested in what everybody's views are.

Well my view a few years ago would have been selfish and completely different to what it is today.


Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits.



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#177 Celtic Rooster

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 02:16 PM

So. the original question I asked was "Does anybody know what is happening with the NWCL this Winter"?



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Posted 27 August 2013 - 02:25 PM

So. the original question I asked was "Does anybody know what is happening with the NWCL this Winter"?

 

few snippets knocking around!

 

there's this: http://www.nwcl-win.org/clubs

 

and there's als this which is showing a league table and lists teams: http://www.ecclestonvikings.co.uk/

 

they dont match but suggest 10 - 15 sides.  There's one there who told me at wekeend they are not playing (although it could be a difference of opinion within the club) but I'd expect it to change more.


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Posted 27 August 2013 - 03:14 PM

From that list MMP, just looks like the 11 who competed last year along with Eccleston Lions

 

May be wrong of course.   I know Irlam are recruiting at the moment also, so there's two definites



#180 TaxiEgg

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 03:18 PM

I'm told there is quite a few considering their position .




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