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#241 GeordieSaint

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 12:34 PM

Paddy Ashdown made a good speech that every military intervention ever in history has had fallout, both expected and unexpected.  That's the price of taking action.  What it will do though is make a bloody big statement, as with the first gulf war, that we're through with dicking around with countries that treat the most sacred bits of international law as toilet paper.

 

My thoughts are the same as those of Paddy Ashdown:

 

“In 50 years trying to serve my country I have never felt so ashamed.”


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#242 gingerjon

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 01:15 PM

Why I voted no


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#243 Just Browny

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 03:11 PM

Why I voted no


Lily-livered surrender monkey.

I can confirm 30+ less sales for Scotland vs Italy at Workington, after this afternoons test purchase for the Tonga match, £7.50 is extremely reasonable, however a £2.50 'delivery' fee for a walk in purchase is beyond taking the mickey, good luck with that, it's cheaper on the telly.


#244 hoff

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 03:36 PM

Ultimately I feel sorry for the Syrians and the lost generation of refugees and orphans which this conflict has created

#245 walter sobchak

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 04:30 PM

Lily-livered surrender monkey.


When are you deploying to Syria to fight the good fight?

#246 Bostik Bailey

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 04:58 PM

When are you deploying to Syria to fight the good fight?


Whoooosh

#247 walter sobchak

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 05:01 PM

I wish the media would F-off about the so called "special relationship", listening to all the talking heads you'd have thought that the UK had allied themselves with Assad and khamenei and declared war on the US! This was democracy in action with the prime minister putting his case forward and allowing MP's the right to vote on whether the UK should intervene militarily. Get over it please?

#248 Bostik Bailey

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 05:08 PM

I wish the media would F-off about the so called "special relationship", listening to all the talking heads you'd have thought that the UK had allied themselves with Assad and khamenei and declared war on the US! This was democracy in action with the prime minister putting his case forward and allowing MP's the right to vote on whether the UK should intervene militarily. Get over it please?

Well said that man

For all you war mongerers please read a copy of 1984 by George Orwell , and find out where the continuos war is located.

It seams like the governments of today are using that book as a text book

Edited by Bostik Bailey, 30 August 2013 - 05:09 PM.


#249 ckn

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 05:58 PM

The opportunist Adam Afriyie has stuck his knife in.  This generation's Heseltine?  Stabbing people in the back then wondering why he never gets a sniff of the top job.


Arguing with the forum trolls is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good you are, the bird will **** on the board and strut around like it won anyway


#250 ckn

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 06:35 PM

https://www.facebook...151810017069604

 

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#251 Methven Hornet

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 06:56 PM

Lily-livered surrender monkey.

 

Talking of which, we Brits eat a lot of cheese...


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#252 chuffer

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 07:54 PM

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#253 Bedford Roughyed

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 09:15 PM

Good point made by a Syrian lady on a Jeremy Bowen report this evening, to paraphrase -

 

'Give me a Martin Luther King, someone with a dream for Syria, and I'd be the first person supporting them.'

 

Lots of Syrian fear the demise of secular Syria as much as they fear Assad.


With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

#254 Bostik Bailey

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 10:22 PM

Talking of which, we Brits eat a lot of cheese...


And we surrendered in 1783

#255 Methven Hornet

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 08:33 AM

US set for Syria strikes, etc, etc
 
"Kerry referred to France as the "oldest ally" of the US, after President François Hollande pledged support for military action against Syria."
 
Ouch!

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#256 John Drake

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 09:45 AM

US set for Syria strikes, etc, etc
 
"Kerry referred to France as the "oldest ally" of the US, after President François Hollande pledged support for military action against Syria."
 
Ouch!

 

How old is Kerry, 12? Utterly childish response from him. Dummy spitting petulance at its worst.

 

It has been pointed out elsewhere that the US did not exactly rush to our side at the outbreak of WW2 and only entered that war when their own interests were directly threatened, so the UK should take absolutely no lectures from them about the value of alliances.

 

Kerry's response reveals the true worth of the so called 'special' relationship. It is only special so long as the UK provide slavish support to the US administration. The moment you stop, they will find fast friends elsewhere and begin the insults.

 

It's also quite revealing that a country which claims to want to uphold democratic traditions around the world, cannot accept when another country disagrees with it as the result of a legitimate parliamentary democratic process.


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#257 Wolford6

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 09:52 AM

Who needs the Yanks as allies. All they've ever done is try to drag us into wars that they started.

 

World War 2? they sat back and took our money for ships, armaments and food until 1942. This allowed Hitler to commit  a lot worse  genocide than Assad. If Japan hadn't bombed Pearl Harbour, they'd be still sat there.

 

Falklands War? Reagan said that the USA had to be "even handed" in its dealings with the UK and Argentina.

Gulf War 1. We were promised big reconstruction conrracts in Kuwait. I think we got fewer than Germany did.

 

Even now, they sell us their outdated nuclear weapon systems rather than sharing the technology.

 

For all his faults, Harold Wilson showed a lot of common sense by refusing for our troops to go to Vietmnam. If only Blair had shown the same over Gulf War 2 and Afghanistan.


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#258 JohnM

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 10:12 AM

Headline from Eastern Daily Press Norwich Tuesday June 10th 1941: British 40miles into Syria.

#259 Northern Sol

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 05:37 PM

Who needs the Yanks as allies. All they've ever done is try to drag us into wars that they started.
 
World War 2? they sat back and took our money for ships, armaments and food until 1942. This allowed Hitler to commit  a lot worse  genocide than Assad. If Japan hadn't bombed Pearl Harbour, they'd be still sat there.


Tbf to the Yanks, they had proposed a far reaching peace plan that they hoped would settle European nationalistic squabbles for once and for all. Britain and France said "Sod that, we're going to ##### slap the Krauts". Twenty years later, the British and French then go running to the Americans because the Germans were starting another war. Unsurprisingly they didn't feel particularly co-operative.

#260 archibald

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 05:46 PM

Who needs the Yanks as allies.

Quite, who wants the most powerful nation on earth to be their ally. We should team up with Chad or somewhere.






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