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#21 Steve May

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 02:39 PM

The game was a poor game by RL standards.

 

It was one for the connoisseur.


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Posted 27 August 2013 - 03:04 PM

You jammy git Martin. I had to sit through almost all of Man U v Chelsea and believe me the second forty five was better than the first. For all you people making comments about Charnley chasing down Shaul, it was a knock on, head and feed to Hull.

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 03:14 PM

You jammy git Martin. I had to sit through almost all of Man U v Chelsea and believe me the second forty five was better than the first. For all you people making comments about Charnley chasing down Shaul, it was a knock on, head and feed to Hull.

 

How does the referee not spotting the knock on negate the wonderful effort of Charnley chasing Shaul down, preventing a try and dislodging the ball at the same time?


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Posted 27 August 2013 - 03:18 PM

How does the referee not spotting the knock on negate the wonderful effort of Charnley chasing Shaul down, preventing a try and dislodging the ball at the same time?

I wasn't denigrating Charnley's effort but the fact remains it was an illegal play. Off the top of my head I can't remember who picked up the loose ball. Maybe someone can enlighten me. It went from what should have been an attacking Hull position to Wigan in Hull's ten metre zone from the scrum.

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#25 Ant

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 03:19 PM

I personally disagree it was a knock on by Charnley - I certainly didn't think so at the time

#26 YCKonstantine

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 03:20 PM

Whether he knocked it forward or not, the player who picked it up after was offside.


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#27 deluded pom?

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 03:21 PM

I personally disagree it was a knock on by Charnley - I certainly didn't think so at the time

Charnley knocks the ball out of Shaul's hands towards the Hull try line.

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 03:25 PM

Impossible to prove

He knocks the ball down out of Shauls hands as both are sprinting to the Wigan try line, to me the ball simply squirts out of Shauls hands and heads in a direction towards the touch line and Wigans try line

At best it's 50/50 at best and no way could any official be expected to call on that - and I'd also say the "call" went the same way every other such play has ever gone

And in either case it should not deflect from what was an astonishing play from Charnley

#29 Griff9of13

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 03:27 PM

Whether he knocked it forward or not, the player who picked it up after was offside.

 

It was O'loughlin who was also chasing back who dropped on the loose ball. I don't think he came from an off side position. 


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Posted 27 August 2013 - 03:27 PM

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Edited by YCKonstantine, 27 August 2013 - 03:27 PM.

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#31 L Bow

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 03:28 PM

The game was disappointing because there was way too much ball dropped by Hull with minimal or no contact.

 

Hull were magnificent in defence but the object of the game is not to see how long you can hold out for whilst constantly giving the ball back to the opposition.


Edited by L Bow, 27 August 2013 - 03:36 PM.


#32 YCKonstantine

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 03:30 PM

It was O'loughlin who was also chasing back who dropped on the loose ball. I don't think he came from an off side position. 

 

Look at 23 seconds.


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#33 Marauder

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 03:36 PM

Good article. I agree about the ratio of good games - in my opinion, even the poor games of RL have plenty of decent stuff in them. The other day was frustrating and too stop-start but there were plenty of big hits, some nice breaks and plenty of tension.

 

Everything is so extreme in Rugby League world (not your magazine!) - a bad game means the game is dying in many people's heads!

I'll agree with you here, even though it wasn't electric on the eye there was still plenty of good defensive skills going on.


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#34 Ant

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 03:39 PM

Yeah, impossible to call that a knock on and no one was offside

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 04:10 PM

A hell of alot of finals become somewhat of an anti-climax. With there only being 2 major finals a year there is alot at stake. You can count the classic finals over 30 years on probably just one hand. I mean classic not good or quite good.


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#36 Ant

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 04:24 PM

Indeed

Semi-finals are often where the briliant games live

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 04:47 PM

It's part of the culture of the game to knock it. We're always "on show" for some reason. Why? It's a great game, with a great atmosphere and a good community of people involved. Give others a chance to enjoy it, if they do, great. If they don't hey-ho!

It is very, very rare that a RL match doesn't have a "magic moment". Even in Saturday's game, there was the Tomkins try & Jamie Shaul run and Charnley tackle. Moments that people will remember for years. Despite all the attacking errors by Hull, it was still tense and right up to the end, if Hull had started to hold onto the ball, they could have got back into it.

Not a classic by any means, but certainly not boring.

RL fans need to stop feeling the need to justify the sport. Enjoy it for what it is & be grateful that you've had the opportunity to be a part of it.
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Posted 27 August 2013 - 04:56 PM

Case in point from another code - Man Utd v Chelsea, 2 of the top 3, dreadful game. It was tense because the score was so close but otherwise it won't be putting the fear of God up Bayern or Barca.

If Hull had scored off that break it could have been different. The longer the game went on, the more mistakes they made as the pressure built.
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#39 Dave T

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 05:34 PM

Yeah, impossible to call that a knock on and no one was offside

erm, O'Loughlin was.

 

O'Loughlin was ahead of Charnley, Charnley touched it (knocked it down) and O'Loughlin picked it up ahead of Charnley.

 

A clear offside, assuming that Charnley touched it, which is clearly the case.



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Posted 27 August 2013 - 06:39 PM

Bad day at the office ,poor playing conditions ( was the weather really that bad ? )

We expect high standards because this is our flagship competition , if you compare the game on Saturday with any played over the week end in Oz then we really do have to question our quality ?

Or are we not giving credit to the level of defence on show ,Hull spilled a lot of possession but was that not down to the in your face defence from Wigan and in the same token how well did Hull defend ?

For me our game is getting stale because we do not have the strength of depth in quality of attacking players with the craft and guile to open tight defences .

How many of our Home grown halfs would cut the mustard in oz as apposed to the other way ?

Yes Saturdays game was a big disappointment but so are most of our super league games ,the game is losing its WOW factor over here our family prefer watching the Oz game and we talk more about the skills on show in OZ games compared to ours .

 

I have never, ever, been as wet at a rugby game. I gave up as I just could not get any wetter.

 

Having now started to pick up the opinions of people who are casual viewers it seems that they wereimpressed considering the conditions, and also thought it was a game that was dramatic to the end.


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