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#61 South Wakefield Sharks

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 04:15 PM

I just don't get the Tomkins comment. At best he was average.


Again comments my in-laws made about how good he is. We see him all the time and as Martyn asks, maybe we expect too much.

#62 deluded pom?

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 05:17 PM

Or maybe his reputation went before him?

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 05:19 PM

Or maybe his reputation went before him?


I doubt either Just Browny's German newbie or certainly my in-laws had ever heard of him before the match.

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 05:21 PM

They are easily pleased then as nothing he did barring the try was anything like memorable or maybe that WAS the only memorable aspect of the match for a newbie?

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#65 Just Browny

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 10:07 PM

It seemed to be a reference to the speed of his movement when he received the ball. I'd agree that Hull kept him quiet, but the threat was clearly there if Hull had lost concentration just once.

I can confirm 30+ less sales for Scotland vs Italy at Workington, after this afternoons test purchase for the Tonga match, £7.50 is extremely reasonable, however a £2.50 'delivery' fee for a walk in purchase is beyond taking the mickey, good luck with that, it's cheaper on the telly.


#66 Griff9of13

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 10:27 PM

Tomkins may not have had his best ever game, but when I talk to non RL fans about the game he is almost always the first (and only) name they mention. Like him or not, Tomkins is the nearest thing we have to a rugby league superstar in this country. 


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Posted 29 August 2013 - 05:37 AM

Tomkins may not have had his best ever game, but when I talk to non RL fans about the game he is almost always the first (and only) name they mention. Like him or not,Tomkins is the nearest thing we have to a rugby league superstar in this country.

That's my point though Griff. I wouldn't expect anyone seeing or hearing about the sport for the first time ever on Saturday to come out with a comment like "That Tomkins is skilful" unless they had previously heard about him as he had one of his few virtually anonymous games.

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#68 redjonn

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 04:54 PM

They are easily pleased then as nothing he did barring the try was anything like memorable or maybe that WAS the only memorable aspect of the match for a newbie?

 

But in those conditions I wouldn't expect him to be able to play at his top standard, especially if just back from injury.  He did what he had to do, very effectively and solid as he needed to be in the conditions. That is he played to the conditions as did Wigan very effectively, a pity Hull didn't have the intelligence to fully adapt their game.    He did knock on once but it was not in a particular "advantageous" part of the field. 

 

The only real opportunity he had he took very skilfully for the conditions.  Not bad when you consider.

 

To add, sometime even if he isn't "on song" it is enough for him to be there to attract "high alert" attention from the opposition, that in itself causes undue anxiety by the opposition which doesn't help with the nervous energy drain.


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