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Another cyclist-killer escapes proper punishment


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#21 Gary Coyle

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Posted 03 September 2013 - 07:38 PM

I actually hit a cyclist at 4.30am this morning, no lights, he ran the lights at a junction, (bradford road to grange road link, at the junction where Mr Smiths pub is) black clothes including a black hat, after the obvious shock of this annoying person appearing 2 yards in front of me and hitting him head on at about 15-20 mph i was suprised that he only had a gravel rash and damaged pride and bent bike, i absolutly ripped into him and kicked his ###### all over the road after he told me it was my fault for not looking, it was all witnessed by 3 other car drivers, police were called and this ###### was arrested, this is probaly the 5-6th time ive come across this ###### in the last month or so



#22 Larry the Leit

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Posted 03 September 2013 - 07:40 PM

I actually hit a cyclist at 4.30am this morning, no lights, he ran the lights at a junction, (bradford road to grange road link, at the junction where Mr Smiths pub is) black clothes including a black hat, after the obvious shock of this annoying person appearing 2 yards in front of me and hitting him head on at about 15-20 mph i was suprised that he only had a gravel rash and damaged pride and bent bike, i absolutly ripped into him and kicked his ###### all over the road after he told me it was my fault for not looking, it was all witnessed by 3 other car drivers, police were called and this ###### was arrested, this is probaly the 5-6th time ive come across this ###### in the last month or so


Well done in getting the police to act on an obvious deviation from the law.
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#23 Kenilworth Tiger

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Posted 03 September 2013 - 07:50 PM

I ###### hate these threads. If we say all cyclists are the same and all drivers are the same the we'll get nowhere.

There is good and bad on both sides
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#24 Phil

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Posted 03 September 2013 - 08:04 PM

I ###### hate these threads. If we say all cyclists are the same and all drivers are the same the we'll get nowhere.

There is good and bad on both sides

 

 

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#25 gingerjon

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Posted 03 September 2013 - 08:05 PM

I actually hit a cyclist at 4.30am this morning, no lights, he ran the lights at a junction, (bradford road to grange road link, at the junction where Mr Smiths pub is) black clothes including a black hat, after the obvious shock of this annoying person appearing 2 yards in front of me and hitting him head on at about 15-20 mph i was suprised that he only had a gravel rash and damaged pride and bent bike, i absolutly ripped into him and kicked his ###### all over the road after he told me it was my fault for not looking, it was all witnessed by 3 other car drivers, police were called and this ###### was arrested, this is probaly the 5-6th time ive come across this ###### in the last month or so


Just forwarded this post to the police.
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#26 Larry the Leit

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Posted 04 September 2013 - 04:53 AM

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#27 Gary Coyle

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Posted 04 September 2013 - 05:41 AM

Just forwarded this post to the police.

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#28 Gary Coyle

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Posted 04 September 2013 - 05:43 AM

Had a visit from the local plod who told me he later admitted liability and the whole incident is also on the CCTV cameras at the junction, he also agreed to pay my damages

Well done in getting the police to act on an obvious deviation from the law.



#29 JohnM

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Posted 04 September 2013 - 06:19 AM

Excellent outcome. If only the police were as assiduous in pursuit of the MILLIONS of law breaking sandwich eating mobile phone using speeding car drivers who are responsible for something like 30000 KSIs a year.

#30 Derwent

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Posted 04 September 2013 - 06:26 AM

I ###### hate these threads. If we say all cyclists are the same and all drivers are the same the we'll get nowhere.
There is good and bad on both sides


That is very true and in any debate the motorist is at a disadvantage. Emotive phrases like "cyclist killer" are used which really doesn't help matters. In this case the driver was a moron and undoubtedly at fault, but I doubt he set out to kill a cyclist as a consequence. His sentence may be lenient in the opinion of some but he's hardly to blame for that. I'd suggest their outrage would be better directed at the sentencing guidelines rather than the culprit.

As a side issue, I saw a cyclist wipe a pedestrian out yesterday evening by riding on the pavement at speed. But issues like that don't make headlines where as a collision between a vehicle and a cyclist is more newsworthy as its much more likely to have resulted in death or serious injury.

Cyclists cause accidents, just as motorists do, just as pedestrians, animals and road conditions do, but cyclists seem to adopt some completely blameless moral high ground which is what irks me when this subject comes up.

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#31 Bostik Bailey

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Posted 04 September 2013 - 06:29 AM

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I love the attitude of the guy in red. He's in such a hurry that he feels the need to Jump the lights, but not that much of a hurry that he can then turn back and argue the issue with the other chap.

#32 Gary Coyle

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Posted 04 September 2013 - 06:49 AM

Excellent outcome. If only the police were as assiduous in pursuit of the MILLIONS of law breaking sandwich eating mobile phone using speeding car drivers who are responsible for something like 30000 KSIs a year.

Pet hate of mine is Mobile users, i will pull alongside and give them a toot to remind them. on the other hand i have been known to nosh the odd sandwich while at the wheel.

 

To be fair to the old bill though, ive had the odd occasion to hail down a patrol car and tell them about a cyclist ive passed with no lights and they have waited for them in a side street to have a word

 

Bradford Road between Birstall and Dewsbury between 4-6am is full of them, theres a few dark places where they cant be seen either, on the wide bend just approaching the Frontier is a real black zone, the streetlights on the opposite side are blocked by overgrown trees and for a bout 20 metres its pitch black


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#33 JohnM

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Posted 04 September 2013 - 07:51 AM

Interesting look at accident stats here: http://en.wikipedia....s_Great_Britain

 

Are roads safer? Clearly, not for cyclists.

 

In addition, why are annual road death figures falling?  Better , safer car designs? Faster response from emergency services? better  ambulances - more like mini hospitals. Certainly its not down to better driving, in my view.

 

That is also why we should be focussing on KSI stats rather than just road deaths.



#34 Ex-Kirkholt

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Posted 04 September 2013 - 10:18 AM

I'm on tour with my band, this week in The Netherlands. Whilst acknowledging that there are far more cyclist about, the general care and attention of the road users in respect of them is noticeably different to the UK.

 

You've hit the nail on the head here - "far more cyclists".  These people are probably motorists as well and as such can see both side of the argument and both cycle and drive with more respect for one another.

 

When I went to university in Hull in the 1980s there was far more two-wheeled traffic, particularly bikes, on the roads of East Yorkshire than in East Lancshire.  I had both a bicycle and a Vespa at the time and found that local car drivers were far more conscious of two-wheelers than at home.

 

Except for the ####### who knocked me off my scooter on Anlaby Rd.


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#35 Griff

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Posted 04 September 2013 - 11:49 AM

A pedestrian, cyclist, man with 10 sheep etc has a right to use the highway. It just happens that the motor vehicle is in such a majority that many drivers think have a right of way over others.

Seems fair enough.  Motorists pay for the roads. Pedestrians, cyclists and shepherds use them for nowt and expect priority.

 

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#36 JohnM

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Posted 04 September 2013 - 11:51 AM

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#37 Ex-Kirkholt

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Posted 04 September 2013 - 12:16 PM

Seems fair enough.  Motorists pay for the roads. Pedestrians, cyclists and shepherds use them for nowt and expect priority.

 

Spongers. :tongue:

 

But motorists don't pay for the roads - we do not pay Road Tax, we pay Vehicle Excise Duty - a tax on vehicles.


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#38 Griff

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Posted 04 September 2013 - 12:28 PM

But motorists don't pay for the roads - we do not pay Road Tax, we pay Vehicle Excise Duty - a tax on vehicles.

 

Fair point.  Well, a bike is a vehicle - why aren't they paying ?


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#39 gingerjon

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Posted 04 September 2013 - 12:34 PM

Fair point.  Well, a bike is a vehicle - why aren't they paying ?

 

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Posted 04 September 2013 - 01:04 PM


Fair point. Well, a bike is a vehicle - why aren't they paying ?


Because VED is based on vehicle emissions. Not all cars are subject to VED these days.