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#1 The Future is League

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 02:10 PM

If Rugby League could start from scratch where would YOU put 12 Super League teams nationwide?



#2 Big Red Keev

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 02:23 PM

Are we allowed to use existing teams?

 

Can one area have more than one club??



#3 The Future is League

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 02:35 PM

Are we allowed to use existing teams?

 

Can one area have more than one club??

You can use existing teams. One area can have more than one club.

Starting from scratch i would go for the 12 biggest cities in the UK. That would give Rugby League a nationwide spread. On abroader note i would also have 12 championship clubs in them cites as well.



#4 zorquif

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 02:42 PM

Only in the UK? Canetman will be going daft!



#5 zorquif

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 02:43 PM

But I'd have

 

Wigan

Warrington

Leeds

Bradford

Saint Helens

Wakefield

Castleford

Hull x2

Huddersfield

Salford

Widnes

 

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#6 gingerjon

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 02:47 PM

There'd be one team about 50 yards from my house next to a cracking pub.

 

And 11 others.


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#7 hindle xiii

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 02:53 PM

Bradford

London

St Helens

Wigan

Leeds

Salford

Halifax

Sheffield

Warrington

Castleford

Paris

Oldham

 

in that order...


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#8 Gruff

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 02:56 PM

London 1

London 2

Nottingham

Birmingham

Cardiff

Edinburgh

Toulouse

Catalan

Leeds

Hull

Manchester

Newcastle



#9 Northern Sol

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 03:14 PM

London (x2)
Bristol
Birmingham
Manchester
Liverpool
Sheffield
Leeds
Newcastle
Glasgow
Cardiff
Belfast

#10 LOYALION

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 10:35 PM

Still no Cumbrian side?

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#11 Marauder

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 10:56 PM

You can use existing teams. One area can have more than one club.

Starting from scratch i would go for the 12 biggest cities in the UK. That would give Rugby League a nationwide spread. On abroader note i would also have 12 championship clubs in them cites as well.

What about a supporter base in those 12 BIG cities.


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Posted 09 September 2013 - 11:07 PM

Part of RL's problem is that too many people fantasise about the what ifs.  We've got what we've got, live with it and channel your energy into improving that.



#13 RSN

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 11:10 PM

Well if it's the Super league that only limits Europe. So if you want the most commercially attractive league you'd probably go.

London x 2
Manchester
Paris
Madrid
Berlin
Rome
Vienna
Budapest
Barcelona
Bucharest
Munich
Milan

I'd take what we have over that though any day.

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 11:11 PM

Taking the thread at its most literal, going back to 1895, I'd be busting a nut to get the Welsh on board as well as the midlands clubs.  The RFU were pushing clubs to the limit in many areas and were really quite unpopular but the fledgling NU just didn't have enough about it to go get the other clubs that were in a bit of trouble at the time.

 

It's really not outside the bounds of probability that the NU could have made the rump of the RFU led union the minority code of rugby in Britain, never mind England.  A few olive branches to the west country and south-west sides and there may have been a quiet coup down that way as well.  The code of union might have died a slow lingering death pretending to be amateur leaving a fully competitive professional global code of rugby, formerly called the Northern Union; we may have even allowed the amateur union to associate with us as the amateur side of rugby, if they could swallow their pride.

 

So... my revisionist Super League would be:

 

2 x London Clubs, probably Harlequins and Saracens

Bradford

Leeds

St Helens

Wigan

Hull FC

Gloucester

Leicester

Bath

Cardiff

Swansea

 

No need for a French rugby league side as they'd have their own fully pro league...


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#15 gnidir

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 12:09 AM

id have two conferences of 10 teams, one british, one french, with potential to go to 12 each.

Play your own conference home and away, the cross conference teams once, 5 home, 5 away. 

Pre season tournaments against those left in the RFL system, WITH TROPHIES, proper tournaments, not friendlies.

28 game  regular season, plus pre season tournament and challenge cup if allowed.

 

Warrington (Cheshire)

St Helens (Merseyside)

Wigan (Lancashire)

Leeds (W Yorks)

Hull FC (E Yorks)

Sheffield (Playing in Derbyshire also)

Salford (Manchester region)

London (Not the broncos)

Cumbria (Combined, as Cumbria)

Gateshead (Borders and county durham)

 

Added teams 

Crusaders once they build

South Wales/Scotland/Ireland team, no real preference.

 

French, summer league so the Elite remains

 

Regional teams

Cote de azure

Rhone alps

Midi pyrenees

Languedoc Rousillon (Aude)

Catalan region (Perpignan south)

Plays de la loire

Aquitaine

Illes de france

Limousin/Auvergne

Turin

 

Expansion teams to the north of france or second italian

 

 

Winner is the league champ of that country, playoff for champs of europe, straight shootout.

 

1 for a win, 0 for a loss or a draw, -1 for a loss by more than 24 points (Sliding to 12 points more than the average margin season on season)



#16 gnidir

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 12:12 AM

Id also bring back the regal trophy under a different guise, you have to beat the holders at home to win it. It rotates through the season, you get the team name on the trophy if you defend it more than once. Regal trophy playing on the Englishmans hoome is his castle idea.



#17 nec

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 05:33 AM

Taking the thread at its most literal, going back to 1895, I'd be busting a nut to get the Welsh on board as well as the midlands clubs. The RFU were pushing clubs to the limit in many areas and were really quite unpopular but the fledgling NU just didn't have enough about it to go get the other clubs that were in a bit of trouble at the time.

It's really not outside the bounds of probability that the NU could have made the rump of the RFU led union the minority code of rugby in Britain, never mind England. A few olive branches to the west country and south-west sides and there may have been a quiet coup down that way as well. The code of union might have died a slow lingering death pretending to be amateur leaving a fully competitive professional global code of rugby, formerly called the Northern Union; we may have even allowed the amateur union to associate with us as the amateur side of rugby, if they could swallow their pride.

So... my revisionist Super League would be:

2 x London Clubs, probably Harlequins and Saracens
Bradford
Leeds
St Helens
Wigan
Hull FC
Gloucester
Leicester
Bath
Cardiff
Swansea

No need for a French rugby league side as they'd have their own fully pro league...

I like your idea of allowing the rfu to take on the 'barla' role
Rugby League is a sport that desperately needs to expand its geographical supporter base and its player base. This imperative means that all other requirements are secondary until this is done.

All power in the game should be with governing bodies, especially international governing bodies.

Without these actions we will remain a minor sport internationally and nationally.

#18 The Future is League

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 07:21 AM

What about a supporter base in those 12 BIG cities.

We're starting from scratch. Pre 1895. There has been plenty of rumours over the years that pre 1895 some union clubs in the west country and the midlands were paying players. 2 present day big union clubs at least, probably more were ripe for picking to join the Northern Union, if only the men behind the breakaway had been a bit more forceful.



#19 SE4Wire

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 07:58 AM

But I'd have

Wigan
Warrington
Leeds
Bradford
Saint Helens
Wakefield
Castleford
Hull x2
Huddersfield
Salford
Widnes

*dons tin... er, flat cap*


You're right to prepare for flak. You've got Salford in but not Fev. No doubt that will be madness for some.

#20 Bostik Bailey

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 08:14 AM

St. Helens Recs
St. Helens RFC
Wigan Football club
Warrington
Widnes
Swinton
Salford
Leigh
Oldham
Rochdale Hornets
Millom
Barrow

Nice geographical spread and no cold away trips into the badlands




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