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#121 Trojan

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Posted 03 April 2014 - 08:57 PM

How where they going to value it would they seek the advise of the shysters that would then go on to buy big stakes?

 

Or was it just going to be "better" because it was being done by a Labour government?

It wasn't going to be done by a Labour government at all, to quote from the 2010 manifesto "continuing modernisation and investment will be needed by the Royal Mail in the public sector"


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#122 Garvers

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Posted 03 April 2014 - 10:29 PM

Andrew Neil (supported by BBC research dpt. :rolleyes:) confirmed it had never been a Labour manifesto pledge. 

 

Genuine question - just wondered what you meant about the BBC political research unit..?



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Posted 04 April 2014 - 07:20 AM

It wasn't going to be done by a Labour government at all, to quote from the 2010 manifesto "continuing modernisation and investment will be needed by the Royal Mail in the public sector"

I didn't make any reference to the 2010 manifesto.

 

I'm actually reffering to the 2009 botched "part privatisation" attempt by Gordon and Mandy.



#124 Trojan

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Posted 04 April 2014 - 07:33 AM

I didn't make any reference to the 2010 manifesto.

 

I'm actually reffering to the 2009 botched "part privatisation" attempt by Gordon and Mandy.

But what happened in 2009 doesn't commit the party now to anything, what it promised to do in 2010 doesn't commit them either today but at least is relevant. But Cameron told a lie in Parliament when he said Labour would have privatised the Royal Mail.  Admit it.  They've got form both for lying and selling off state assets to their pals at "mates rates"  That's what the Tories do.


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#125 shrek

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Posted 04 April 2014 - 07:44 AM

But what happened in 2009 doesn't commit the party now to anything, what it promised to do in 2010 doesn't commit them either today but at least is relevant. But Cameron told a lie in Parliament when he said Labour would have privatised the Royal Mail.  Admit it.  They've got form both for lying and selling off state assets to their pals at "mates rates"  That's what the Tories do.

I never said they were committed to anything.

 

I only made reference to the last Labour government, there hasn't been an opportunity for a Labour government to implement the contents of the 2010 manifesto, I'm fully aware of this not sure why your linking my reference to the previous Labour government to Camerons cock up on Wednesday which was clear for all to see.



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Posted 04 April 2014 - 07:57 AM

I never said they were committed to anything.

 

I only made reference to the last Labour government, there hasn't been an opportunity for a Labour government to implement the contents of the 2010 manifesto, I'm fully aware of this not sure why your linking my reference to the previous Labour government to Camerons cock up on Wednesday which was clear for all to see.

Even then, they lost the election.  Political practice is that the manifesto is only usable as budgie tray liner once an election is lost.  Even the two parties in government abandoned parts of their manifestos when they didn't win outright and had to sign up to a Coalition Agreement.  Once they signed that though it was a vastly different story as it was no longer a sales document to convince you to vote for them, it was an actual statement of government intentions.


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#127 Trojan

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Posted 04 April 2014 - 07:59 AM

I never said they were committed to anything.

 

I only made reference to the last Labour government, there hasn't been an opportunity for a Labour government to implement the contents of the 2010 manifesto, I'm fully aware of this not sure why your linking my reference to the previous Labour government to Camerons cock up on Wednesday which was clear for all to see.

It wasn't a cock up it was a lie.  He went red in the face. Cameron is a known and proven liar. He orchestrated the entire 1992 Tory election campaign, a campaign which afterwards the ever indiscrete Ken Clarke admitted on "Any Questions" was based on lies.  


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#128 shrek

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Posted 04 April 2014 - 08:08 AM

Even then, they lost the election.  Political practice is that the manifesto is only usable as budgie tray liner once an election is lost.  Even the two parties in government abandoned parts of their manifestos when they didn't win outright and had to sign up to a Coalition Agreement.  Once they signed that though it was a vastly different story as it was no longer a sales document to convince you to vote for them, it was an actual statement of government intentions.

 

 

It wasn't a cock up it was a lie.  He went red in the face. Cameron is a known and proven liar. He orchestrated the entire 1992 Tory election campaign, a campaign which afterwards the ever indiscrete Ken Clarke admitted on "Any Questions" was based on lies.  

Call it what you like, I don't care and in fact don't disagree. 

 

Point stands though Trojan I was clearly making reference to the last Labour Government, who couldn't find a buyer for the 30% they'd valued at £2 billion, not a none existant line in a manifesto. 



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Posted 04 April 2014 - 08:10 AM

Call it what you like, I don't care and in fact don't disagree. 

 

Point stands though Trojan I was clearly making reference to the last Labour Government, who couldn't find a buyer for the 30% they'd valued at £2 billion, not a none existant line in a manifesto. 

If Labour could have got it through the unions then they'd have done exactly what the Tories have done.  Their other problem was that from 2007 the market was tanking with no sign of it going the other way, they'd have been easy pickings for the Tories to accuse them of selling it off cheaply.


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Posted 30 April 2014 - 10:09 AM

More fun from the Royal Mail shares aftermath.

 

It is, after all, the fault of the posties...


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#131 Trojan

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 09:59 PM

Cameron trying to get some fun out of the great mail rip-off when the Speaker stopped him dead!

Brilliant


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#132 Griff9of13

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 01:39 PM

And so it begins: Royal Mail cuts half its later collection times

 

The steady but inevitable reduction in service and increase in prices. :(


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Posted 08 August 2014 - 02:01 PM

"while staying within the regulated density requirement"



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Posted 08 August 2014 - 02:01 PM

And so it begins: Royal Mail cuts half its later collection times
 
The steady but inevitable reduction in service and increase in prices. :(

Profits over service, profits come first service comes second.

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 02:03 PM

"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money to spend."



#136 WearyRhino

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 02:16 PM

"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money to spend."

 

What trite nonsense, so typical of you John.


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#137 Griff9of13

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 02:29 PM

"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money to spend."


Nice to see you still marching in step with her party propaganda.

She would know all about other people's possessions, she nicked enough of the country's assets and flogged them off cheap in her time.

Oh, and she was factually incorrect, a countries money and assets belong to the country and everyone residing there. So it is everyone's money, not other peoples. But then spending money for the benefit of society as a whole and not just the benefit of a privileged few (for example the royal mail give away itself) has never been the tory way, has it?
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#138 Griff9of13

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 02:31 PM

What trite nonsense, so typical of you John.


Don't give him the credit, it's not his own work. <_<
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Posted 11 August 2014 - 10:03 PM

And so it begins: Royal Mail cuts half its later collection times

 

The steady but inevitable reduction in service and increase in prices. :(

"The majority of those switching as part of today's announcement will be in urban and suburban areas..."

As someone for whom late collections in urban and suburban areas play such an important part of my working existence, all I have to say is ****.


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