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wally lewis - how good was he?


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#21 Larry the Leit

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 07:21 PM

I don't think Trinity won another game all season when he went back home.

For all his skill and mastery, he managed to spend most of his time in Yorkshire on the lash, and turned up at Wheldon road half cut and played.
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#22 weloveyouwakefield2

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 07:27 PM

I tend to associate those traits with an old school scrum half rather than an old school stand off.

and when you can pass the ball 30 metres across the field into somebodys chest, you dont need to scoot or jink or electric pace. For me he is the best player I have ever seen because he could see things nobody else could see or nobody else could do, he was light years ahead of his time compared to players in this country at the time..He was strong, tough and didnt know when he was beaten..


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Posted 29 September 2013 - 07:29 PM

I don't think Trinity won another game all season when he went back home.

For all his skill and mastery, he managed to spend most of his time in Yorkshire on the lash, and turned up at Wheldon road half cut and played.

Read this, http://richarddelariviere.co.uk/?p=825


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#24 808tone

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 07:39 PM

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#25 Larry the Leit

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 07:59 PM

 

That ties in the Cas game (the engagement as I think it was a boxing day game).  I think the pub was on the left hand side just before the big bend to the right on Aberford road.... on the way to Newmarket.  

 

An amazing player, but in terms of benefit to the team, Colin Maskill and Nigel Bell to name but two put some bloody fine shifts in for Trinity and deserve some of the nostalgic recognition that Lewis gets.


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#26 Blind side johnny

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 09:07 PM

Context is the key - if you weren't there then it is difficult to understand the impact that he had in his brief time here and, much more importantly, in his time in the ARL/QRL. Remember he played in the Queensland competition before it merged with the NSWRL to create what eventually became the NRL. No Brisbane Broncos, Sky/Channel 9 money; even in Oz the players were strictly part-time; training was a bolt-on to their regular jobs; and the game as positively brutal, it really was (that's why complaints today about lax refereeing make me chuckle).

 

To survive and thrive in those conditions as a skilful half back with vision and combative energy was really something special that would make many current players flinch to think about. Never mind his games for Trinity just watch the influence of his cameos for the 1982 tourists and marvel.

 

He liked a beer and a fag, hated training and generally ignored coaches, so I reckon he was like two Lee Briers on speed with tackling ability and no dodgy haircut.


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Posted 29 September 2013 - 11:08 PM

Wayne Bennett once described him as the finest player that ever pulled on a State of Origin jersey.

 

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#28 OMEGA

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 11:28 PM

He was a freak of rugby league nature

Powerful and tough
Agile and quick
Clever bordering on genius
A leader, both verbal and through actions
The best passer of a ball I've ever seen
a class kicking game
Vision and understanding of the game
Consistently brilliant

What made him the greatest was his ability to be one or all of these things at just the right time in the game.

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 11:43 PM

and when you can pass the ball 30 metres across the field into somebodys chest, you dont need to scoot or jink or electric pace. For me he is the best player I have ever seen because he could see things nobody else could see or nobody else could do, he was light years ahead of his time compared to players in this country at the time..He was strong, tough and didnt know when he was beaten..

He was strong, tough and didnt know when he was beaten........I don't doubt it but.............As a young kid the Aussies came to Barrow to play and I remember being outside the ground as the Aussie bus pulled up as we wanted to glimpse the superstars up close and get autographs etc,  anyhow big daft Eddie Szymila  was walking up to the ground carrying a plastic shopping bag (lol) He suddenly went ape ######, he ran over to the bus ran around until he spotted Wally and went bananas slamming the windows screaming how he was going to kill him etc he ran to the coach door and tried to open it to get on etc, the faces on the Aussies was a picture and Lewis looked shaken to say the least as Eddie was ushered into the ground chomping at the bit, An hour or so later you hardly noticed Wally was actually on the pitch.  



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Posted 30 September 2013 - 08:51 AM

That'd be like the British RL team going to play some backwater team in Wolf Creek.....if some Mick Talyor style character started screaming that he was going to create a few "heads-on-sticks" I'm sure it would put Sir Kev of his stroke too.... 



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Posted 30 September 2013 - 09:25 AM

He was strong, tough and didnt know when he was beaten........I don't doubt it but.............As a young kid the Aussies came to Barrow to play and I remember being outside the ground as the Aussie bus pulled up as we wanted to glimpse the superstars up close and get autographs etc,  anyhow big daft Eddie Szymila  was walking up to the ground carrying a plastic shopping bag (lol) He suddenly went ape ######, he ran over to the bus ran around until he spotted Wally and went bananas slamming the windows screaming how he was going to kill him etc he ran to the coach door and tried to open it to get on etc, the faces on the Aussies was a picture and Lewis looked shaken to say the least as Eddie was ushered into the ground chomping at the bit, An hour or so later you hardly noticed Wally was actually on the pitch.  

What year was that? They played Cumbria at Carlisle in 1982 did they play Barrow as well? I know they played Cumbria at Barrow in 1986


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#32 Just Browny

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 09:33 AM

So Bedlam Breakout, who regularly tells us that RL isn't as good as it used to be, is now downgrading his view on good players who used to be? Has he/she never just considered the possibility that RL isn't the game for him/her?

Edited by Just Browny, 30 September 2013 - 09:33 AM.

I can confirm 30+ less sales for Scotland vs Italy at Workington, after this afternoons test purchase for the Tonga match, £7.50 is extremely reasonable, however a £2.50 'delivery' fee for a walk in purchase is beyond taking the mickey, good luck with that, it's cheaper on the telly.


#33 boxhead

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 09:43 AM

What year was that? They played Cumbria at Carlisle in 1982 did they play Barrow as well? I know they played Cumbria at Barrow in 1986

 

In 1982  they played Barrow at Craven Park.

Wally was one of the Emus on the 1982 tour and Brett Kenny was the chosen Test 5/8 alongside Sterlo at Halfback.

 

By the 1986 Tour Brett Kenny had been pushed into the Centres at Test level.

 

http://www.rugbyleag...82/summary.html


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Posted 30 September 2013 - 09:48 AM

I thought Lewis was a great player based on his impact on SOO, and also v GB in 84, 86 and 88. Vision and leadership, tough guy, great passing, decent short kicking game, very influencial.

 

I saw him during his time at Wakey in 83/84 and he jogged round and took the pee a little, old manning the refs and rarely getting out of second gear. He still looked a cut above his team-mates unsurprisingly.


 

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#35 Cumbrian Fanatic

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 09:50 AM

In 1982  they played Barrow at Craven Park, Wally was one of the Emus on the 1982 tour and Brett Kenny was the chosen Test 5/8 alongside Sterlo at Halfback

 

http://www.rugbyleag...82/summary.html

Cheers for that, as a kid watching the 82 Kangaroos live at Carlisle and the Tests on telly the 2 that always stick out in my memory are Big Mal and Wayne Pearce, it was only really when Lewis went to Wakefield I really became aware of him. Seem to remember it being reported that he put that many on the gate that Wakefield made a profit on him being there


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Posted 30 September 2013 - 09:55 AM

He was strong, tough and didnt know when he was beaten........I don't doubt it but.............As a young kid the Aussies came to Barrow to play and I remember being outside the ground as the Aussie bus pulled up as we wanted to glimpse the superstars up close and get autographs etc,  anyhow big daft Eddie Szymila  was walking up to the ground carrying a plastic shopping bag (lol) He suddenly went ape ######, he ran over to the bus ran around until he spotted Wally and went bananas slamming the windows screaming how he was going to kill him etc he ran to the coach door and tried to open it to get on etc, the faces on the Aussies was a picture and Lewis looked shaken to say the least as Eddie was ushered into the ground chomping at the bit, An hour or so later you hardly noticed Wally was actually on the pitch.  

 

:tongue:  Szymala. Mad as a bag of snakes.


 

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#37 boxhead

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 10:33 AM

having watched many repeated soo matches on premier sports it left me asking the question was "the king" really that good? or was it a aura built up by the queensland press and public?  to be fair there never seemed to be any electric pace, jinking or sidestepping or anything out of the ordinary, sure he was a good passer grafter and leader but I think there have been much better half backs than him to come fron down under.

 

 

Having won eight State of Origin man of the match awards he must have had something going for him.



#38 Scubby

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 10:36 AM

As school kids we were always trying to throw 'Wally Lewis' passes so his reputation certainly flooded through the game in the 1980s.



#39 EdinburghExile

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 12:16 PM

I'm always amused that while Wally was busy pulling a supporting Offiah back, Mike Gregory went 60m under the posts himself.



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Posted 30 September 2013 - 01:05 PM

Errrrr- out of this world IMO.

 

Yes he was of his time, and the game was very different even in the 80's but was a prodigious ball player, organiser, general and leader. A great physical presence too who could mix it with the Forwards and wasn't afraid to get stuck in.

 

The nearest player I can see to him now is Glen Stewart ironically who is a 13!

 

Today he would have been a 13 too.

 

 






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