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#21 Methven Hornet

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 09:54 PM

Doesn't some effete ###### announce this 'policy' every year at the Tory conference? It seems like it.

 

A more pressing issue: could we not have some sort of job scheme that provided Gideon with a role where he can do less damage?


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#22 archibald

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 10:04 PM

Doesn't some effete ###### announce this 'policy' every year at the Tory conference? It seems like it.

I'm sure someone was bleating about "juvenile insults" the other day.



#23 Bedford Roughyed

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 10:11 PM

Doesn't some effete ###### announce this 'policy' every year at the Tory conference? It seems like it.

 

A more pressing issue: could we not have some sort of job scheme that provided Gideon with a role where he can do less damage?

I think all parties announce a 'being tough on scroungers' policy every year.  A race to 'out tough' each other, rather than having a coherent system...


With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

#24 archibald

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 10:23 PM


Edited by archibald, 30 September 2013 - 10:26 PM.


#25 Methven Hornet

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 10:26 PM

I think all parties announce a 'being tough on scroungers' policy every year.  A race to 'out tough' each other, rather than having a coherent system...

 

Yes, wasn't Liam Byrne complaining that he thought of this first? ;)

 

My problem with this isn't that we shouldn't intervene where someone is clearly struggling to find, it's just that you know from experience that when something like this is announced to the Tory conference it is to get the headlines in newspapers like the Mail, Express, etc. If you are serious about helping the long-term unemployed then devise something that has the potential to succeed, allocate serious resources to it, test if it does in fact work and revise as necessary. When it works then announce it to your party conference. 

But then you'd have to find something else, some other scapegoat, for your headlines.


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#26 Ackroman

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Posted 01 October 2013 - 09:15 AM

My issue isn't necessarily party political, it's the fact that Osbourne has clearly decided he won't deal with the real problem either.



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Posted 01 October 2013 - 09:58 AM

The Party Conference soundbites are rolling off the tongue, as per.

 

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Tax breaks for Middle England - Check

Get the unemployed scroungers earning the State's hard earned free money - Check

Get tough on immigrants, creating nett migration - Pending

 

It makes you realise it was only the Lib Dems who had alternative policies. The other two are using different terms for the same outcome.



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Posted 02 October 2013 - 01:57 PM

Hmmm, a spin heavy speech from Cameron.  The first half is just waffle with a mix of Tory rabble rousing and baiting of others with no future policies, the bit about Thatcher was carefully placed to fry the brains of some non-Tories so they wouldn't pay attention to the rest of the speech.

 

So... on the things he said they're going to do:

- HS2 waffle

- Frack the feck out of the north

- Free schools good!  Let's do more!

- Under 25s no automatic benefits

 

By far and away the worst of the three main party leader speeches.  It makes Miliband's and Clegg's speeches seem full of concrete and well worked policies.  All it needed was Land of Hope and Glory playing in the background to make the distraction effort complete.


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Posted 02 October 2013 - 02:18 PM

Osborne said the long term jobless will be made to go out doing jobs like litter picking and graffiti cleaning.There are people employed fulltime doing this job,so will they be working alongside each other one getting dole and one getting a wage above minimum?


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#30 Griff9of13

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 02:27 PM

Osborne said the long term jobless will be made to go out doing jobs like litter picking and graffiti cleaning.There are people employed fulltime doing this job,so will they be working alongside each other one getting dole and one getting a wage above minimum?

 

Or the company contracted to do this work lays it's waged staff off and just uses the "freebies" sent to them by the dole?

 

Net reduction in unemployed = 0


Edited by Griff9of13, 02 October 2013 - 02:27 PM.

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#31 archibald

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 04:42 PM

Osborne said the long term jobless will be made to go out doing jobs like litter picking and graffiti cleaning.There are people employed fulltime doing this job,so will they be working alongside each other one getting dole and one getting a wage above minimum?

 

Or the company contracted to do this work lays it's waged staff off and just uses the "freebies" sent to them by the dole?

 

Net reduction in unemployed = 0

Right at this minute we have "community service" for criminals, they're easily spotted, usually wearing luminous bibs and looking sullen. This has been going on for years, is there any evidence that people who do this sort of work full time have been layed off so the companies (probably owned by Tories) can get cheap, criminal labour? We have had 3 years of Tories, they must have put down the boiled kittens to make sure this happened? They have, haven't they?

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#32 shrek

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 06:16 PM

Saw a journalist tweeting this morning about a lady refusing to take her coat off at the scanner on her way into conference as she was only wearing a bra and knickers underneath - the mind boggles!



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Posted 02 October 2013 - 06:52 PM

Saw a journalist tweeting this morning about a lady refusing to take her coat off at the scanner on her way into conference as she was only wearing a bra and knickers underneath - the mind boggles!


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#34 gingerjon

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 07:56 PM

Was it Ann Widdicome?

 

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#35 Methven Hornet

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 08:04 PM

The Party Conference soundbites are rolling off the tongue, as per.
 
List:
 
Tax breaks for Middle England - Check
Get the unemployed scroungers earning the State's hard earned free money - Check
Get tough on immigrants, creating nett migration - Pending
 
It makes you realise it was only the Lib Dems who had alternative policies. The other two are using different terms for the same outcome.


Did single mothers get their usual abuse?
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#36 nadera78

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 09:04 AM

Did single mothers get their usual abuse?


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#37 nadera78

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 09:10 AM

Hmmm, a spin heavy speech from Cameron.  The first half is just waffle with a mix of Tory rabble rousing and baiting of others with no future policies, the bit about Thatcher was carefully placed to fry the brains of some non-Tories so they wouldn't pay attention to the rest of the speech.
 
So... on the things he said they're going to do:
- HS2 waffle
- Frack the feck out of the north
- Free schools good!  Let's do more!
- Under 25s no automatic benefits
 
By far and away the worst of the three main party leader speeches.  It makes Miliband's and Clegg's speeches seem full of concrete and well worked policies.  All it needed was Land of Hope and Glory playing in the background to make the distraction effort complete.


When you think about it, it is amazing that a man with so few ideas can be propelled into Downing Street and a position of authority. Still, I suppose the likes of Gove, Hunt and Johnson have more than enough dangerous ideas to make up for Bert & Ernie in Nos. 10 & 11.
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