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Is England a country?


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#1 Mister C

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 07:28 AM

I appreciate (or think I do) that our country is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

 

Wikipedia states that England is a country within a country

 

Can anyone clear this up for me or does that pretty much sum it up?

 

Just to resolve a discussion with friends thank you!



#2 Ackroman

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 07:53 AM

Think of your clothes. Great Britain is the coat, and once you peel back the layers England is your underpants.



#3 Northern Sol

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 08:12 AM

The British government defines England (and Scotland etc) as "constituent countries" i.e. they are countries that make up another country (the UK). It has most of the features e.g. flag, capital, national sports teams etc that a country would be expected to have, it is just not an independent country.

#4 Mister C

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 08:16 AM

so in the eyes of the United Nations it is not a country but in the eyes of the United Kingdom it is

 

i think i read on here that Catalonia has more right to be a country than England?



#5 Futtocks

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 08:30 AM

Think of your clothes. Great Britain is the coat, and once you peel back the layers England is your underpants.

..and Cornwall is your posing pouch. ;)

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#6 Mister C

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 08:34 AM

..and Cornwall is your posing pouch. ;)

 

mine is more like rutland :(  



#7 Wolford6

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 08:46 AM

mine is more like rutland :(  

 

Yes, but presumably that means your good at rutting.

;)

 

From Wikipedia:

 

In 2006 it was reported that Rutland has the highest fertility rate of any English county – the average woman having 2.81 children, compared with only 1.67 in Tyne and Wear.[14]


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#8 Wolford6

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 08:49 AM

Think of your clothes. Great Britain is the coat, and once you peel back the layers England is your underpants.

 

 

Keep peeling and you get to: 

 - London ... the scrotum

                 and

 - Lancashire ... the armpit.

;) ;) :tongue:


Edited by Wolford6, 04 October 2013 - 08:50 AM.

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#9 JohnM

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 09:40 AM

and  Yorkshire the foreskin?



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Posted 04 October 2013 - 09:46 AM

I think it's easier to think of the United Kingdom in rugby league terms:

 

- The top 3 leagues are England with London being most of the M62 Super League clubs, some rich bits, some rough bits and some bits that hang around the outskirts.  The other two leagues being about right in terms of location and money distribution compared to the UK.

- BARLA is Scotland, it wants nothing to with the professional leagues, would quite happily split away but a lot of members recognise that it's really not going to be that relevant if it did so.

- The winter/summer rugby split along with the RLC and NCL is Northern Ireland.  Tread lightly in here with opinions and definitely make sure of the colours of the pub you're in before having the wrong opinion.

- The French clubs are Wales, we know there's something big there (Catalans/Cardiff) and have heard persistent rumours of other big places (Toulouse/Swansea).  Someone mentioned that they have other leagues of their own but no-one really believes them.

 

It's all rugby league/United Kingdom but damn it's a weird family.


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#11 hindle xiii

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 09:48 AM

I think it's easier to think of the United Kingdom in rugby league terms:

 

- The top 3 leagues are England with London being most of the M62 Super League clubs, some rich bits, some rough bits and some bits that hang around the outskirts.  The other two leagues being about right in terms of location and money distribution compared to the UK.

- BARLA is Scotland, it wants nothing to with the professional leagues, would quite happily split away but a lot of members recognise that it's really not going to be that relevant if it did so.

- The winter/summer rugby split along with the RLC and NCL is Northern Ireland.  Tread lightly in here with opinions and definitely make sure of the colours of the pub you're in before having the wrong opinion.

- The French clubs are Wales, we know there's something big there (Catalans/Cardiff) and have heard persistent rumours of other big places (Toulouse/Swansea).  Someone mentioned that they have other leagues of their own but no-one really believes them.

 

It's all rugby league/United Kingdom but damn it's a weird family.

This still doesn't explain who Rangi Chase can play for.


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#12 hindle xiii

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 09:48 AM

and  Yorkshire the foreskin?

I'll try enjoy my packet of Hula Hoops for lunch.


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#13 Wolford6

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 09:49 AM

and  Yorkshire the foreskin?

 

At a stretch.

:tongue: :tongue:


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#14 JohnM

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 09:52 AM

I'll try enjoy my packet of Hula Hoops for lunch.

 

not cheese then?  :O  :bad:  :bad:  :bad:


Edited by JohnM, 04 October 2013 - 09:53 AM.


#15 hindle xiii

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 09:52 AM

I'm genuinely concerned if JohnM has foreskin by his armpit.


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#16 Tiny Tim

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 09:55 AM

Keep peeling and you get to: 

 - London ... the scrotum

                 and

 - Lancashire ... the armpit.

;) ;) :tongue:

 

And Wales the back-side   :tongue:


Edited by Tiny Tim, 04 October 2013 - 09:56 AM.

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#17 Wolford6

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 10:11 AM

I'm genuinely concerned if JohnM has foreskin by his armpit.

 

 

Like many Lancastrians, he doesn't know his r's from his elbow.

 

;)


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#18 Wolford6

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 10:14 AM

And Wales the back-side   :tongue:

 

 

 

 

Yes but we are the Jennifer Lopez of backsides.

 

;) :tongue:


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#19 Northern Sol

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 10:16 AM

so in the eyes of the United Nations it is not a country but in the eyes of the United Kingdom it is


The UN recognises independent states with the apparatus of government. Country does not necessarily mean "independent state". A country could be part of a federation like the EU or a union like the UK and still be a country.
 

i think i read on here that Catalonia has more right to be a country than England?


No, because even the Spanish government doesn't consider it so.

#20 gingerjon

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 10:19 AM

No, because even the Spanish government doesn't consider it so.

 

They call it a 'nationality' apparently.


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