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#1 Futtocks

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 12:25 PM

Robinson and Carroll quit. Apparently, they've only just noticed that their followers are drunken boneheads who like causing trouble and intimidating brown people.


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#2 Wolford6

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 12:28 PM

The EDL is marching in Bradford this Saturday.


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#3 Johnoco

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 12:51 PM

The EDL is marching in Bradford this Saturday.

Haven't heard about this. Where exactly?

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 12:59 PM

http://www.thetelegr...tration/?ref=mr


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#5 Johnoco

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 06:52 PM

They better watch out, they are starting work on the Westfield project this month. The council said so. :rolleyes:


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#6 Larry the Leit

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 09:19 PM

Not sure if this is good or bad new for the EDL.
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#7 Wolford6

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 09:24 PM

Organisations like the EDL and BNP always have a bunch of hotheads who seek mission-creep. They exist in a series of phases, with each phase always ending in tears and bloodletting.


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#8 Larry the Leit

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 09:25 PM

Mission creep? How so?
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#9 Wolford6

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 09:56 PM

As I see it:

 

The English Defence League  started out as a campaign to make Moslems have to follow the same rules as everyone else and to subscribe to traditional British standards of social freedom. The EDL membership's basic feeling was that we were being too soft on Moslems who, as a social grouping, were taking this country for a ride. EDL Supporters included a notable proportion of people from a range of non-muslim faiths and ethnicities.

 

Tommy Robinson now says that, over the past year or so, the organisation has been infiltrated by groups that wish to actively discriminate against Moslems. He no longer feels able to direct its activities and policies in what he sees as the correct manner.

 

Presumably, during and after his spell in prison, he's had his power-base irrevocably eroded.

 

It's certainly true that this claimed disruption/infiltration of the EDL coincides with a contemporary major schism in the British National Party.


Edited by Wolford6, 08 October 2013 - 10:02 PM.

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#10 Larry the Leit

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 01:42 AM

It doesn't read like mission creep to me. A group set up to target one specific part of society.

Edited by Larry the Leit, 09 October 2013 - 02:17 AM.

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#11 Larry the Leit

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 02:20 AM

As I see it:

The English Defence League started out as a campaign to make Moslems have to follow the same rules as everyone else and to subscribe to traditional British standards of social freedom. The EDL membership's basic feeling was that we were being too soft on Moslems who, as a social grouping, were taking this country for a ride. EDL Supporters included a notable proportion of people from a range of non-muslim faiths and ethnicities.

Tommy Robinson now says that, over the past year or so, the organisation has been infiltrated by groups that wish to actively discriminate against Moslems. He no longer feels able to direct its activities and policies in what he sees as the correct manner.

Presumably, during and after his spell in prison, he's had his power-base irrevocably eroded.

It's certainly true that this claimed disruption/infiltration of the EDL coincides with a contemporary major schism in the British National Party.

As an aside, why is it that you consistently use the term muslim and not Muslim, when the convention in modern day Britain is the latter?

Edited by Larry the Leit, 09 October 2013 - 05:49 AM.

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#12 WearyRhino

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 03:11 AM

As I see it:

The English Defence League started out as a campaign to make Moslems have to follow the same rules as everyone else and to subscribe to traditional British standards of social freedom. The EDL membership's basic feeling was that we were being too soft on Moslems who, as a social grouping, were taking this country for a ride. EDL Supporters included a notable proportion of people from a range of non-muslim faiths and ethnicities.

Tommy Robinson now says that, over the past year or so, the organisation has been infiltrated by groups that wish to actively discriminate against Moslems. He no longer feels able to direct its activities and policies in what he sees as the correct manner.

Presumably, during and after his spell in prison, he's had his power-base irrevocably eroded.

It's certainly true that this claimed disruption/infiltration of the EDL coincides with a contemporary major schism in the British National Party.


Totally inaccurate. EDL was ALWAYS well populated by known fascists. Yaxley Lennon is himself a former member of the BNP. Many of the EDLs regional organisers are still active fascists.

Please stop using the term "muslim". It is simply.wrong.

#13 Larry the Leit

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 05:04 AM

Please stop using the term "muslim". It is simply.wrong.


Why?
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#14 gingerjon

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 05:46 AM

 

The English Defence League  started out as a campaign to make Moslems have to follow the same rules as everyone else and to subscribe to traditional British standards of social freedom.

 

 

The mission creep seems to me that they started out as a racist drinking and fighting club and then accidentally stumbled on a specific cause to hurl cans at.


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#15 Larry the Leit

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 06:31 AM

I just briefly heard Tommy Robinson (ex of the EDL) on the wireless.  I suspect that he must have already aroused the interest of the English Language Defence League.


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#16 Old Frightful

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 06:43 AM

Tommy Robinson was asked about previous comments he made at EDL rallies announcing his hatred for all things Islam.

 

"It's no good dwelling on the past" he replied.

 

If he really thinks that then perhaps we won't get any more of these cr ap tv programmes where he goes round with a JCB digging up people's nicely lawned gardens looking for rotting artefacts and claiming they're summat exciting.


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#17 808tone

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 06:58 AM

Does racism exist outside the EDL and can you be a racist and be non white in the UK ?



#18 l'angelo mysterioso

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 07:21 AM

Does racism exist outside the EDL and can you be a racist and be non white in the UK ?

of course it does

of course you can.

 

 

racism is a long time discussion topic on this forum including the aspects of it that you raise: almost entirely in an articulate and informed way. In all the years that this topic has been discussed from a wide range of perspectives and specific subject matters and nobody from whatever viewpoint on this topic that any posters come from would be as ignorant to have the ideas you suggest.. The two scenarios you raise are ridiculous and in my view disingenuous


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#19 Larry the Leit

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 07:22 AM

Tommy Robinson was asked about previous comments he made at EDL rallies announcing his hatred for all things Islam.

 

"It's no good dwelling on the past" he replied.

 

If he really thinks that then perhaps we won't get any more of these cr ap tv programmes where he goes round with a JCB digging up people's nicely lawned gardens looking for rotting artefacts and claiming they're summat exciting.

 

 

Boom.

 

I await a Boo Radley reference.


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#20 SE4Wire

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 07:27 AM

I await a Boo Radley reference.


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