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#1 Larry the Leit

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 09:32 PM

http://www.theguardi...ions-leaves-job

Genius. From start to finish.

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#2 Wolford6

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 10:50 PM

A necessary learning curve for her personally and Gove. Their positions vis a vis the teaching profession are identical.


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#3 gingerjon

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 05:45 AM

Free schools are a disaster.


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#4 Larry the Leit

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 05:54 AM

A necessary learning curve for her personally and Gove. Their positions vis a vis the teaching profession are identical.


This was completely unnecessary.
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#5 Padge

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 08:15 AM

This was completely unnecessary.

^ this



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#6 nadera78

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 08:47 AM

Free schools are a disaster.

And only going to get worse as the numbers grow and the idiocy of both the idea and the people running them comes to light. In the short time since they've come on board we've seen this woman, we've seen a Muslim Free School accused of mistreating female staff, and various other stories emerge. Apart from the fact that they suck precious resources out of the education budget, they've also massively overspent - money that has been taken from other schools to make up the shortfall.

 

Can anyone remind me what Labour's position on this is? They should abolish them all immediately upon entering government (if they ever get back in).


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#7 Johnoco

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 09:11 AM

And all this is a surprise?



#8 archibald

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 09:17 AM

The report from the OECD the other day, that branded our 16-24 years olds as borderline tree stumps, suggests the "normal" schools arent much cop either.



#9 archibald

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 09:19 AM

And only going to get worse as the numbers grow and the idiocy of both the idea and the people running them comes to light. In the short time since they've come on board we've seen this woman, we've seen a Muslim Free School accused of mistreating female staff, and various other stories emerge. Apart from the fact that they suck precious resources out of the education budget, they've also massively overspent - money that has been taken from other schools to make up the shortfall.

 

Can anyone remind me what Labour's position on this is? They should abolish them all immediately upon entering government (if they ever get back in).

They fully support them, and academies. Especially academies set up by donors, the Aldridge academy for instance.



#10 Johnoco

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 09:20 AM

The report from the OECD the other day, that branded our 16-24 years olds as borderline tree stumps, suggests the "normal" schools arent much cop either.

Then that report is BS.



#11 archibald

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 09:20 AM

Then that report is BS.

Why?



#12 Johnoco

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 09:26 AM

Why?

A report can be made to say whatever it is they want it to say and i never believe any of them about anything. To suggest that the majority of 16-24 year olds are thick, is not only insulting it's wrong. Do you know any? Spoke to any lately? I suppose everyone was Einstein when you were that age but they certainly weren't in mine. 

 

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#13 archibald

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 09:36 AM

A report can be made to say whatever it is they want it to say and i never believe any of them about anything. To suggest that the majority of 16-24 year olds are thick, is not only insulting it's wrong. Do you know any? Spoke to any lately? I suppose everyone was Einstein when you were that age but they certainly weren't in mine. 

 

There have always been many people with no intelligence, it isn't a generational thing.

But you believe it when people say "free schools are ######"?

 

I'm doing a part time Chemistry degree, last year for some reason, we had a maths refresher class, one of the questions was something like 44 x 37, the girl sat next to me tried to solve it by doing (40 x 30) + (4 x 7), this was a first year Chemistry degree student.

 

This report isn't from the Tories, Labour or Lib Dems.



#14 gingerjon

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 10:02 AM

But you believe it when people say "free schools are ######"?

 

Facts are facts.

 

People who set up schools on a whim are unlikely to be good at running schools.


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#15 Johnoco

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 12:03 PM

But you believe it when people say "free schools are ######"?
What
I'm doing a part time Chemistry degree, last year for some reason, we had a maths refresher class, one of the questions was something like 44 x 37, the girl sat next to me tried to solve it by doing (40 x 30) + (4 x 7), this was a first year Chemistry degree student.

This report isn't from the Tories, Labour or Lib Dems.

I believe they are a bad idea to begin with. The instances I know of don't make me feel any different.

I agree that basic standards amongst some people have fallen but don't tar a whole generation.

#16 zorquif

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 12:43 PM

But you believe it when people say "free schools are ######"?

 

I'm doing a part time Chemistry degree, last year for some reason, we had a maths refresher class, one of the questions was something like 44 x 37, the girl sat next to me tried to solve it by doing (40 x 30) + (4 x 7), this was a first year Chemistry degree student.

 

This report isn't from the Tories, Labour or Lib Dems.

 

Where are you doing it though?



#17 Larry the Leit

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 01:11 PM

But you believe it when people say "free schools are ######"?

I'm doing a part time Chemistry degree, last year for some reason, we had a maths refresher class, one of the questions was something like 44 x 37, the girl sat next to me tried to solve it by doing (40 x 30) + (4 x 7), this was a first year Chemistry degree student.

This report isn't from the Tories, Labour or Lib Dems.


How did she pass A-level chemistry?
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#18 Bob8

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 02:26 PM

The report from the OECD the other day, that branded our 16-24 years olds as borderline tree stumps, suggests the "normal" schools arent much cop either.

 

Read it. 

http://www.oecd.org/pisa/46624007.pdf

No journalist will.  British media only does bad news.


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#19 Bob8

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 02:28 PM

But you believe it when people say "free schools are ######"?

 

I'm doing a part time Chemistry degree, last year for some reason, we had a maths refresher class, one of the questions was something like 44 x 37, the girl sat next to me tried to solve it by doing (40 x 30) + (4 x 7), this was a first year Chemistry degree student.

 

This report isn't from the Tories, Labour or Lib Dems.

Yet you assume we can all see this method of working out is silly.  In other words you assume the average reader of this forum is fairly numberate, showing that you do not think things are all that bad.


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#20 WearyRhino

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 02:57 PM

There have always been many people with no intelligence, it isn't a generational thing.


Actually there has always been very few people with no intelligence but plenty with bad education.

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