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26/10/13: World Cup Game 1 - Australia v England

Sat 26th Oct 2.30pm BBC1

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Poll: Who will win? (111 member(s) have cast votes)

Who will win?

  1. Australia by 13 points or more (44 votes [40.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 40.00%

  2. Australia by 7 to 12 points (18 votes [16.36%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.36%

  3. Australia by 1 to 6 points (3 votes [2.73%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.73%

  4. Draw (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. England by 1 to 6 points (22 votes [20.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.00%

  6. England by 7 to 12 points (17 votes [15.45%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.45%

  7. England by 13 points or more (6 votes [5.45%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.45%

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#21 boxhead

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 10:21 AM

We can definatley catch the Aussies out cold in this match, the only problem is that as the tournament goes on the Aussies start to build momentum and start to click. Hence all the English finals and third test heartbreak.

 

I do not think the Aussies are going to be complacent in this Tournament Walter.

England have a great team other than the Halves and perhaps Centres, without the link players and the strike players they may not capitalise on a Forward pack that holds its own.

England have to score more than they concede to win apparently.



#22 Cumbrian Fanatic

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 10:29 AM

The bookies (Paddy Power) have given England a 12 point start on the handicap which seems generous after having most recently lost by 22, 16, 20 and 30 points. For the most recent time we got within 12 points you have to go back to Oct-09 when we lost by 10 points at Wigan (ironically after perhaps the worst 40 minute performance of all these games when we got pasted out wide in the first half).

I'd have thought that would be about right. Aussies are definately favourites but I think (or is it hope?) we have a better team than we did when we played them in 2011


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#23 Scubby

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 10:33 AM

The bookies (Paddy Power) have given England a 12 point start on the handicap which seems generous after having most recently lost by 22, 16, 20 and 30 points. For the most recent time we got within 12 points you have to go back to Oct-09 when we lost by 10 points at Wigan (ironically after perhaps the worst 40 minute performance of all these games when we got pasted out wide in the first half).

 

Geez NW7 I'd almost forgotten about that one. They are like rainy days aren't they :D



#24 nathanwood7

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 10:36 AM

Geez NW7 I'd almost forgotten about that one. They are like rainy days aren't they :D

 

Ha I know, the memory of Lee Smith (playing right centre!) being skinned by Greg Inglis at will still haunts me, and I think Tom Briscoe was subbed off at half-time with Smith moved to the wing to try and halt the flow.

 

I think if England can get within the 12 point handicap it will be a good result for the tournament and show that we can pose a realistic threat to winning the trophy.



#25 TheBinman

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 10:45 AM

Tomkins
Hall
Watkins
Cudjoe
Briscoe
Chase
Sinfield
G burgess
Mclorum
Mossop
Westwood
Burgess
Oloughlin

Roby
Hock
Graham
T burgess

#26 Scubby

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 10:51 AM

Ha I know, the memory of Lee Smith (playing right centre!) being skinned by Greg Inglis at will still haunts me, and I think Tom Briscoe was subbed off at half-time with Smith moved to the wing to try and halt the flow.

 

I think if England can get within the 12 point handicap it will be a good result for the tournament and show that we can pose a realistic threat to winning the trophy.

 

Yeah, that was a really dark day with the DW (JJB then) far from full. By half-time I was ready to throw myself off a bridge. I actually think this one will be a very cagey affair in the first half. Lots of biff and completed sets. Many of the Aussies (Hayne, Thurston, Slater, Smith, Cronk, Scott, Gallen, Bird) have not played a game in anger for 5-6 weeks. They will be dusty and we need to shove it up 'em. They don't like it up 'em!! LOL



#27 boxhead

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 10:56 AM

Yeah, that was a really dark day with the DW (JJB then) far from full. By half-time I was ready to throw myself off a bridge. I actually think this one will be a very cagey affair in the first half. Lots of biff and completed sets. Many of the Aussies (Hayne, Thurston, Slater, Smith, Cronk, Scott, Gallen, Bird) have not played a game in anger for 5-6 weeks. They will be dusty and we need to shove it up 'em. They don't like it up 'em!! LOL

 

Does anyone like it "up em" 

The Aussies have another team trying to put it  "up em" three times every year.

Its State of Origin, you would figure they are used to it by now.



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Posted 21 October 2013 - 10:57 AM

As much as some people on here moan about McNamara, the squad selections chosen on this thread show how hard a job he has.  7 teams selected, 7 different selections, and all with valid and reasonable inclusions/exclusions.

 

No matter what team he goes with he will get it wrong in 90% of people's opinions.



#29 boxhead

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 10:58 AM

As much as some people on here moan about McNamara, the squad selections chosen on this thread show how hard a job he has.  7 teams selected, 7 different selections, and all with valid and reasonable inclusions/exclusions.

 

No matter what team he goes with he will get it wrong in 90% of people's opinions.

 

 

He is an average Coach but a champion Scapegoat it seems.



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Posted 21 October 2013 - 11:00 AM

Tomkins
Charnley
Cudjoe
Watkins
Hall
Widdop
Chase
Graham
Mcllorum/roby
Mossop
Westwood
S Burgess
O'loughlin

Roby/Mcllorum
G burgess
Hock
C Hill

#31 Scubby

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 11:02 AM

Does anyone like it "up em" 

The Aussies have another team trying to put it  "up em" three times every year.

Its State of Origin, you would figure they are used to it by now.

 

Yeah, it also sounds like they like to sing Queensland songs after they win with the Kangaroos too :) . However, as you are new to this board (new or previously banned and are now returning under a new name) I will fill you in.

 

You will find that there is a collective group of TotalRLers who have suffered generations of disappointment with Eng/GB and need the "shove it up 'em cry" to help blur out the many many disappointments. I will be starting the annual 'they don't like it up 'em thread in the next 24 hours - watch it grow.


Edited by Scubby, 21 October 2013 - 11:03 AM.


#32 boxhead

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 11:16 AM

Yeah, it also sounds like they like to sing Queensland songs after they win with the Kangaroos too :) . However, as you are new to this board (new or previously banned and are now returning under a new name) I will fill you in.

 

You will find that there is a collective group of TotalRLers who have suffered generations of disappointment with Eng/GB and need the "shove it up 'em cry" to help blur out the many many disappointments. I will be starting the annual 'they don't like it up 'em thread in the next 24 hours - watch it grow.

 

I have never been banned from any Forum.

I used to post here under another name but when I came back here recently I found I could not log in so I had to join up again.



#33 YCKonstantine

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 11:21 AM

So it comes on BBC at 2pm, but doesn't the OC start at 1:30pm?


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#34 Hullfan

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 11:22 AM

England will win this game,
tomkins
charnley
Hardaker
watkins
hall
chase
widdop
graham
roby
s .burgess
hock
Westwood
sinfield (if oloughlin dnt make it)

Mcilorom
mossop
hill
g.burgess

#35 GeordieSaint

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 11:24 AM

The only way ablett can counter inglis is by locking him in the changeroom.

 

Watkins (right centre) will be opposite Inglis (left centre) anyway; well should be...


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#36 EastLondonMike

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 11:27 AM

Hope England don't fall into the trap of getting over 'pumped-up' for this one.. we've seen teams in the past go into a game so pumped up it has the reverse effect.

 

Forget the Italy game, thats history. Lets prepare properly to face the best team in the comp. Get focused on what we need to do and execute. We've got enough players with big game experience to handle any situation, lets make sure we remember that fact.


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#37 boxhead

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 11:35 AM

If Ablett is selected in the Centres it is already conceding that England is trying to counteract the opposition rather than playing their own game.

A Club Second rower is not what you want against the best Back in the World.



#38 GeordieSaint

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 11:39 AM

If Ablett is selected in the Centres it is already conceding that England is trying to counteract the opposition rather than playing their own game.

A Club Second rower is not what you want against the best Back in the World.

 

Agreed.

 

My England 17 would be:

 

1. S Tomkins 2. Charnley 3. Watkins 4. Cudjoe 5. Hall 6. Widdop 7. Chase

8. Graham 9. Sinfield 10. Mossop 11. Hock 12. S Burgess 13. O'Loughlin

 

14. McIllorum 15. Hill 16. G Burgess 17. Westwood

 

Plenty of attacking threat and forward aggressiveness across the park with Sinfield to steer the ship around the field. McIllorum is a better option than Roby for this when Sinfield comes off. C

 

Can't wait!


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#39 Doghead

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 11:43 AM

1 - Tomkins
2 - Charnley
3 - Watkins
4 - Cudjoe
5 - Hall
6 - Widdop
7 - Sinfield
8 - Mossop
9 - Roby
10 - Hill
11 - S.Burgess
12 - Westwood
13 - O'Loughlin
 
14 - Chase
15 - J.Graham
16 - G.Burgess
17 - Hock
 
The first 15 minutes are just going to be a bash em competition with a lot of energy spent in the forwards - Hill and Mossop can hold their own in this department.  After 15 I would then bring on Gurgess and Graham to continue bashing holes for these two - Gurgess to continue bashing them, and Graham to do what he does best - take it to the line and either make yards or put Surgess/Westwood through holes.  After 25 minutes then bring on Hock for Westwood.
 
Graham will then play for the rest of the game, and probably give Sam a 10min breather just after half time.  We need our strongest defenders on the pitch between 55-65 minutes as this is when we tend to ship points


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#40 boxhead

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 11:51 AM

are you a ventriloquist in your spare time.

 

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