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26/10/13: World Cup Game 2 - Wales v Italy


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Poll: Who will win? (45 member(s) have cast votes)

Who will win?

  1. Wales by 13 points or more (1 votes [2.22%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.22%

  2. Wales by 7 to 12 points (17 votes [37.78%])

    Percentage of vote: 37.78%

  3. Wales by 1 to 6 points (14 votes [31.11%])

    Percentage of vote: 31.11%

  4. Draw (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. Italy by 1 to 6 points (2 votes [4.44%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.44%

  6. Italy by 7 to 12 points (8 votes [17.78%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.78%

  7. Italy by 13 points or more (3 votes [6.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.67%

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#41 JonNgog

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 04:06 PM

Ray French really needs to retire... bloody hell



#42 distantdog

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 04:09 PM

Was that really a try? It might have been but How could Shayne Hayne see?



#43 CGD

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 04:09 PM

Guerra double. Italy up 10-6, kick to come.

With that. I'm going to sleep, have stayed up far too late. Just had to watch a bit of this game.

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 04:19 PM

This is a better game than the Eng-Aus match already.

 

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#45 jannerboyuk

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 04:33 PM

Decent game and plenty of people have stayed. Just the usual prob with double headers, too many neutrals, too much beer drunk, dimwits Mexican wave. - still the welsh boys seemed to find being at the millennium to be special so on balance the right decision
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#46 Johnoco

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 04:33 PM

14-12 Italy HT. Decent enough game

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#47 RSN

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 05:07 PM

18-16 to Italy. Frizzel is a machine.

#48 St Reatham

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 05:07 PM

Some big hits going in. Am really enjoying this game.

#49 bobbruce

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 05:17 PM

Technically when the Italian players hand brushes the ground with a welsh player on him is that not tackle complete.

#50 shun

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 05:33 PM

Strange to see a big bald headed Italian blurting out pure manc! Haha

#51 Just Browny

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 05:38 PM

Wales really needed someone to keep hold of the ball. They didn't have one. They played with heart and I enjoyed the game, but disappointed with the result.

I can confirm 30+ less sales for Scotland vs Italy at Workington, after this afternoons test purchase for the Tonga match, £7.50 is extremely reasonable, however a £2.50 'delivery' fee for a walk in purchase is beyond taking the mickey, good luck with that, it's cheaper on the telly.


#52 Trojan

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 05:38 PM

Technically when the Italian players hand brushes the ground with a welsh player on him is that not tackle complete.

Yes, but for me the Welsh player was not on him until he'd passed the ball. I thought he'd knocked on but apparently not, 50/50 IMO
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#53 Ullman

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 05:39 PM

Technically when the Italian players hand brushes the ground with a welsh player on him is that not tackle complete.

I would say not because the Italian player was no longer 'grounded'.


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#54 Ullman

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 05:40 PM

Yes, but for me the Welsh player was not on him until he'd passed the ball. I thought he'd knocked on but apparently not, 50/50 IMO

I thought the side view proved it wasn't a knock on.


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#55 nadera78

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 05:43 PM

I would say not because the Italian player was no longer 'grounded'.

The ball carrying arm was on the ground and the Welsh player had hold of him. Does it matter if the Italian was on his feet? Also, as Noble pointed out, there was an Italian player offside.

 

I also thought the earlier try was unlucky because White had his hand under the ball so it wasn't grounded. 

 

A couple of dodgy calls for mine, and I'm peed off to see a genuine nation lose out to an utterly fake one. But there you go.


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#56 Ullman

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 05:50 PM

The ball carrying arm was on the ground and the Welsh player had hold of him. Does it matter if the Italian was on his feet? Also, as Noble pointed out, there was an Italian player offside.

 

I also thought the earlier try was unlucky because White had his hand under the ball so it wasn't grounded. 

 

A couple of dodgy calls for mine, and I'm peed off to see a genuine nation lose out to an utterly fake one. But there you go.

I think it does matter that the Italian player was on his feet. Without poring over the laws of the game I'm pretty sure that simply putting your hand on an opponent to complete the tackle only relates to a player who is lying on the ground.  


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#57 welshmagpie

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 05:53 PM

Gutted about the result, but we showed some heart and our anthem was incredible. Those things don't win games however!

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#58 nadera78

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 05:54 PM

I think it does matter that the Italian player was on his feet. Without poring over the laws of the game I'm pretty sure that simply putting your hand on an opponent to complete the tackle only relates to a player who is lying on the ground.  

Yes but if the ball carrying arm is on the ground and the defender has touch then it's a  tackle. No?


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#59 Ullman

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 06:02 PM

Yes but if the ball carrying arm is on the ground and the defender has touch then it's a  tackle. No?

As I understand it, only if the ball carrier is lying on the ground. If he regains his feet the defender has to effect a tackle in the normal manner.

 

Correct interpretation by the VR (I think).

 

Edit: I do see where you're coming from. I just think it's come down to interpretation in the end.


Edited by Ullman, 26 October 2013 - 06:16 PM.

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#60 Wolford6

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 06:05 PM

Well tried boys. We  defended like demons but didn't have much creativity in attack. I think we'd have won if Lee Briers had made himself available. All we can do is move on and, seeing as we don't have much maverick, we'll just have to  work on a better offload game.

 

I thought Peter Lupton made a big improvement off the bench and should be the starting hooker.

 

Matt Seamark, Ian Webster and Neal Budworth looked, understandably,  a bit off the pace and I'd only have (at most) two of them in the 17 for the next game. I'd give Christiaan Roets or Rob Massam a go.


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