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Should an gridiron pass be introduced in rl.. Yes or no.. If no how come.


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#21 Padge

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 10:13 AM

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#22 markleeds

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 10:14 AM

Gridiron will evolve over the next few years in order to protect the players. There are already huge lawsuits going on to do with ongoing head/brain injuries. I wouldn't be surprised if they changed the rules to be more like rugby.

#23 l'angelo mysterioso

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 10:18 AM

 "We've had lots of other rules suggestions on here before, such as including contested rucks and so forth."

 

 

 

 

 

this was proposed and campaignedd for by Bill fallowfield when he was the boss


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#24 Poul

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 10:41 AM

Short answer, ..... NO.

Longer answer,..... The OP has a point about Rugby League not being afraid to "evolutionize". If there hadn't been significant changes in the rules played by the nascent Northern Union, then we wouldn't have Rugby League as it is played today.

As it has been pointed out, we already have "de facto" gridiron passes with the so called "momentum" rule.

The Rugby League play which might be considered analogous to the gridiron pass is the (cross field) kick.

I believe that there are other rules which might be "tinkered" with before we start introducing gridiron plays.

#25 Griff

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 11:29 AM


As it has been pointed out, we already have "de facto" gridiron passes with the so called "momentum" rule.
 

 

No, we don't. Absolute nonsense.  We just define a forward pass by reference to the player rather than the ground the ball covers.  That's far from being a gridiron-type forward pass.

 

There are plenty of examples, quoted in other threads, where no-one - absolutely no-one - would see a pass as forward  yet the receiver catches the ball nearer the opposing goal-line than the attacker.

 

Changing the law to oblige the receiver to catch the ball behind the point where it was passed would change the game a lot.  Passes would have to be much deeper when the ball-carrier was running at pace.  It wouldn't improve the game at all.

 

Leave well enough alone.


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Posted 01 November 2013 - 11:37 AM


 

Leave well enough alone.

 

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#27 Tonka

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 11:39 AM

I honestly think it would create chaos.  Passing the ball forward offends the whole structure of the game. In any event, you can already effectively play the ball forward by kicking it, albeit everyone has to be onside, so I don't think it improves the spectacle sufficiently to warrant the change*.

 

*all of this is opinion.



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Posted 01 November 2013 - 11:43 AM

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#29 tomdooley

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 12:20 PM

evolutionary. Try it in the challenge cup it might revive attendances.



#30 Griff

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 12:30 PM

call the men in white coats..........another one for sectioning.

 

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#31 Tonka

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 12:55 PM

It would be revolutionary if they bolted a basketball hoop onto the front of the cross bar and you got 3 points for chucking the ball through it (or a thousand for drop goaling it through).  But it isn't a good idea.


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#32 telliner

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 02:13 PM

tbh i think the op has got the bare bones of a feasable idea .as in gridiron where the reciever is sort of a specialised position, i think in league 'ONE'dedicated player should be assigned receiver before a game.obviously targeted by defence but in a tightgame an exciting proposition in last 10 minutes but given the complexity of how to enforce this rule we dont want to get into rule dominated game like union

#33 faithfulbyname

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 02:21 PM

tbh i think the op has got the bare bones of a feasable idea .as in gridiron where the reciever is sort of a specialised position, i think in league 'ONE'dedicated player should be assigned receiver before a game.obviously targeted by defence but in a tightgame an exciting proposition in last 10 minutes but given the complexity of how to enforce this rule we dont want to get into rule dominated game like union

No he doesn't - ludiccrous idea....



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Posted 01 November 2013 - 02:39 PM

tbh i think the op has got the bare bones of a feasable idea .as in gridiron where the reciever is sort of a specialised position, i think in league 'ONE'dedicated player should be assigned receiver before a game.obviously targeted by defence but in a tightgame an exciting proposition in last 10 minutes but given the complexity of how to enforce this rule we dont want to get into rule dominated game like union

 

Or the last play of the game can be a kick... maybe to a centre... and then who knows what might happen?



#35 telliner

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 02:48 PM

Ive been thinking bout this for yearz.. And thought if rugby league introduce such a pass.. It would evalutionize rugby with 3 tatical plays..

what enterprising ifeas in league?youll have em choking on thier pi nts of mild

#36 intheshed

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 02:58 PM

Heres my gridiron pass rules.. Cannot throw the pass past the 20 meters line.. Within your own half.. The player catching it.. Cannot pass the ball to another player.. And you have one less tackle.. Meaning instead of 6 tackles you have five.. So if you throw the pass.. On the 2nd tackle.. If the player gets tackled.. It be tackle 4.. Instead of tackle 3..


YES. Need to add a 40/20 pass rule also, new set of six for a 40/20 pass. It would awesomize the game....

#37 telliner

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 03:00 PM

No he doesn't - ludiccrous idea....

why ludicrous? Very exciting for assigned thrower looking for assigned reciever as an attacking last ditch OPtION with defences scrambling like billyoh but leaving the attacking team vulnerable because the pass forward option incurrs a forfiet of a number of tackles bring in a new host of tactical strategy whether to take option? When to do it? Being able to interchange with subs bench for the reciever? Mate its called VISION,mad,deluded or crackers ideas fuel the engines of change and evolution

#38 Just Browny

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 03:11 PM

Wow, this place is going downhill fast. Not sure who the OP is yet, the forced posting style conceals it well.

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#39 fieldofclothofgold

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 03:13 PM

Supposing the forward pass was allowed,would blocking also be allowed too?
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#40 telliner

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 03:19 PM

Supposing the forward pass was allowed,would blocking also be allowed too?

no sames rules apply as when a cross field kick is deployed. infringement




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